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  1. #1 What is the name of the law or laws, that could/will shut down our current internet? 
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    I copy/pasted the following infomation from a online website,




    Wikipedia has today gone ahead with its threat to voluntarily shut down its website in protest at internet piracy legislation in the US.

    The sixth-most popular online destination, which attracts 25 million visitors a day, has decided to "go dark" for 24 hours in protest at the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and Protect IP Act (PIPA).


    "Right now, the US Congress is considering legislation that could fatally damage the free and open internet. For 24 hours, to raise awareness, we are blacking out Wikipedia."

    In information posted on the site, Wikipedia said that it is concerned SOPA and PIPA will "severely inhibit people's access to online information", noting that this is not just a problem affecting the US, but also "everyone around the world".

    The site, founded by Jimmy Wales, said that the two pieces of legislation are "badly drafted" and won't stop copyright infringement, but will cause serious damage to the free and open internet





    These laws,

    will "severely inhibit people's access to online information"

    for "everyone around the world".

    and will cause serious damage to the free and open internet

    "Right now, the US Congress is considering legislation that could fatally damage the free and open internet.




    I guess? the following laws, could/will cause serious damage to the free and open internet,

    Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and Protect IP Act (PIPA).


    I hope they do not become law.


    I love (this) internet.


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    The laws, as noted in the Wikipedia protest, are:
    • the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA)
    • the Protect IP Act (PIPA)


    I don't know much about these (as they are proposed US laws and I no longer work in IP) but the main problem seems to be that they are far too broad. For example, it is claimed that SOPA would not only make copyright infringement an offence (which is reasonable) but would make the potential for infringement an offence. Any site with user content (such as this forum, Wikipedia, a blog with reader comments, Twitter, ...) would be criminally liable for anything posted by a user. Or would have to go to unreasonable lengths to check everything posted.

    There is an analysis of SOPA here: http://mashable.com/2012/01/17/sopa-dangerous-opinion/


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    I have also heard of laws that will/could shut down non-cable tv stations.


    And I have heard of laws, that could/will shut down all small (one person owned, private) websites. I believe a group of US corporations is trying to make an internet were only large corporations will have easy access web-sites, and if a website cant pay big bills, they are gone, or cant be found.


    I think up front, these laws may just be trying, to give large corporations, the best, fastest, and easiest to use websites on the internet. And/or turn the whole internet into a pay to play kind of thing, were there would have to be big money, in order to have a website.


    But the thing that scares me most, is that republican force that killed the "fairness doctrine." That republican force that killed the "fairness doctrine", will want to do the same thing to the internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chad View Post
    I have heard of many online companys in america, that are scared, of certain laws closing them down. I have also heard of laws that will/could shut down non-cable tv stations.

    And I have heard of laws, that could/will shut down all small (one person owned, private) websites. I believe a group of US corporations is trying to make an internet were only large corporations will have easy access web-sites, and if a website cant pay big bills, they are gone, or cant be found.
    That is all rather vague.

    I'm sure there are all sorts of laws, and proposed laws, that various people will support and others will disagree with. (Is that a suitably vague and generic response?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by chad View Post
    I have heard of many online companys in america, that are scared, of certain laws closing them down. I have also heard of laws that will/could shut down non-cable tv stations.

    And I have heard of laws, that could/will shut down all small (one person owned, private) websites. I believe a group of US corporations is trying to make an internet were only large corporations will have easy access web-sites, and if a website cant pay big bills, they are gone, or cant be found.
    That is all rather vague.

    I'm sure there are all sorts of laws, and proposed laws, that various people will support and others will disagree with. (Is that a suitably vague and generic response?)





    these laws will, as some one else said,


    will "severely inhibit people's access to online information"

    for "everyone around the world".

    and will cause serious damage to the free and open internet



    I guess these things upset me more, than they upset you.

    To each his own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chad View Post
    these laws will, as some one else said,

    will "severely inhibit people's access to online information"

    for "everyone around the world".

    and will cause serious damage to the free and open internet

    I guess these things upset me more, than they upset you.

    To each his own.
    I am concerned about the protection of people's freedom and the misuse of intellectual property law. I am also concerned that artists and others who create content have the right to profit from it and control what is done with it. (After all, if you wrote a song whhich was adopted by a republican candidate as their campaign theme, I guess you would not be too happy.)

    So we need some laws; we need the right laws.

    BUT ... your vague references to "companies ... certain laws ... a group of US corporations ... etc" that you have "heard of" are so vague as to be meaningless.

    What companies? What laws? Which US corporations?

    Are you still referring to SOPA and PIPA? Or other "laws you have heard of"?

    How do you know that some these laws are not good and necessary things that are being portrayed as bad by pirates or people who just want free access to content without paying? More importantly, without some details, how can I work out whether these laws are good or bad.
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    Chad,

    You need to go on over to Democratic Underground or Daily Kos. They will tell you what to think about it. Go over there and get your marching orders.
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    I am concerned about the protection of people's freedom and the misuse of intellectual property law. I am also concerned that artists and others who create content have the right to profit from it and control what is done with it. (After all, if you wrote a song whhich was adopted by a republican candidate as their campaign theme, I guess you would not be too happy.)

    So we need some laws; we need the right laws.








    (I personally 101% agree.)










    How do you know that some these laws are not good and necessary things that are being portrayed as bad by pirates or people who just want free access to content without paying? More importantly, without some details, how can I work out whether these laws are good or bad.[/QUOTE]






    Yes the basic idea behind these laws is good.

    But large US corporations attorneys wrote these laws (these laws will make those corporations more money) , and many many people believe that these laws will allow these corporations to change the internet, in all the ways I said in my posts. I have heard many people talk about how these laws, will totally change the internet (for the worse.)



    Please feel 100,000% free to ask me any question about this, I personally love (this) internet, for many seperate reasons.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370 View Post
    Chad,

    You need to go on over to Democratic Underground or Daily Kos. They will tell you what to think about it. Go over there and get your marching orders.







    I took several of my marching orders, from Rush Limbaugh himself.


    I listen to every one, and then (I) choose all by myself, what I believe and what I do.



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    I like you Harold, you are a cool guy.


    Have a nice day/night,
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    Chad would you please learn how to use the Quote function. It is extremely frustrating to have to try to figure out what are your words and what are the words of another poster. And for ****'s sake don't apologise for the fact that you aren't doing it correctly. Just start doing it correctly.
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    And


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    I copy/pasted the following, from an online website.
    It’ll come as little to no surprise to hear that entertainment magnate Rupert Murdoch has pumped huge amounts into advancing SOPA and PIPA.




    But from what I have read online, it seems that all the public out cry (against) these laws, has many republicans backing/running away from these (sopa) and (pipa) laws.

    But I still keep thinking of the way the republicans, killed the "fairness doctrine", hopefully the republicans will (never) be able to take the internet, and give it to large corpoartions.
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