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    Could it be possible to make an induction ring and wiring that can withstand the heat of the core of this planet


    If so with an intelligent mole(drill) with attached induction ring with enough wire to reach the core of the moon, could we just supply solar panels and melt the core to such an extent that we get water cycle ?


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    That's assuming there is any water left. There might be, or it might have out gassed billions of years ago.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx_Fox View Post
    That's assuming there is any water left. There might be, or it might have out gassed billions of years ago.
    We can trap and guide a comet from the asteroid belt when the moon is hot enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Time Taken View Post
    Could it be possible to make an induction ring and wiring that can withstand the heat of the core of this planet


    If so with an intelligent mole(drill) with attached induction ring with enough wire to reach the core of the moon, could we just supply solar panels and melt the core to such an extent that we get water cycle ?

    The Moon is not a planet, it's a MOON!

    The heat of the moon's core (or whether it's even liquid or not) is still a matter of investigation. The GRAIL mission Solar System Exploration: Gravity Recovery and Interior Laboratory: Investigations is currently collecting the most accurate data on this.

    There's not enough water on the moon to create a water cycle, nor enough gravity to retain an atmosphere of any consequence.
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    The moon is part of our planet, it's just smaller. Boiling gases are what make atmosphere. Guiding a meteor to earth is already planned, for un-burnt examination, so why not Ice guided to the moon when it's hot enough ?
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    The moon has no stable atmosphere because its gravity is too weak to maintain one, especially since it is so close to the Earth. If you put water on the moon, it will be gone in a matter of hours, and will probably end up on Earth.
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    Not sure I agree with that ^^. Heat has a remarkable effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Time Taken View Post
    Not sure I agree with that ^^. Heat has a remarkable effect.
    Yes, it would cause the water to disappear even more quickly.
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    Convection would occur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Time Taken View Post
    Convection would occur.
    Quite. up, up and away....
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    Convection is the wrong process--it depends on bouyancy, which means there's a medium with density differences--that doesnt' exist on the moon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Time Taken View Post
    Could it be possible to make an induction ring and wiring that can withstand the heat of the core of this planet
    The temperature of the core of the Earth is estimated to be 5778 K. Not even counting the pressure, that's more than enough to melt tungsten at 3683 K.

    So, no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx_Fox View Post
    Convection is the wrong process--it depends on bouyancy, which means there's a medium with density differences--that doesnt' exist on the moon.
    With heat boiling gasses would be the bouyancy/atmosphere. Magnetism in elements change with heat also. Just because there is a quarter the gravity would only mean that the water cycle would cool in a quarter the distance not just boil off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintermute View Post
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    Could it be possible to make an induction ring and wiring that can withstand the heat of the core of this planet
    The temperature of the core of the Earth is estimated to be 5778 K. Not even counting the pressure, that's more than enough to melt tungsten at 3683 K.

    So, no.
    Why does it have to just be tungsten(or metal at all) combined with asbestos and carbon i am sure we could get 1/4 the mass of the earth to some temp just to see result. Perhaps a few(many) 2 mile below surface would be enough at 3000 K.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Time Taken View Post
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    Could it be possible to make an induction ring and wiring that can withstand the heat of the core of this planet
    The temperature of the core of the Earth is estimated to be 5778 K. Not even counting the pressure, that's more than enough to melt tungsten at 3683 K.

    So, no.
    Why does it have to just be tungsten(or metal at all) combined with asbestos and carbon i am sure we could get 1/4 the mass of the earth to some temp just to see result. Perhaps a few(many) 2 mile below surface would be enough at 3000 K.
    Unfortunately your certainty is not related to reality. You would benefit from doing a little more reading on topics before risking an opinion.
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    With heat boiling gasses would be the bouyancy/atmosphere.
    If you do it a lot or it. And in the context of the discussion "up up and away," it doesn't send any gases away, it would just redistributes it.
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    I am betting that melting the core would result in a magnetic pole, this flux is atmosphere !
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    You would lose that bet. The moon's rotation rate is too low to create a dynamo.
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    Probably incorrect. Else how do you explain Mercury's field?
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Probably incorrect. Else how do you explain Mercury's field?
    Mercury has a huge iron core relative to it's mass and is subjected to tidal forces up to three times as strong as those experienced by the earth from the moon and that also varies with it's orbital and rotational periods. Venus is an example of a planet rotating too slow for a dynamo effect to present itself as far as I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeteorWayne View Post
    You would lose that bet. The moon's rotation rate is too low to create a dynamo.
    It's rotation in the fluid core that would compensate.
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    Why would the core rotate?
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    I think they mean circulation, as in convection currents.
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    Well, you might be right, but that's not what he said...
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    Movement of magnetic material is what I meant. Part convection, part controlled by heaters, like electron accelerator.
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