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    Thanks to watching a lot of CSI, I know that it takes 30% hydrogen to kill a person, however what I do not know is how long would it take for it to kill a person and would it be painful? I'm talking about IV giving of hydrogen. And another thing. How easy is to get 30% hydrogen? Is it easy to get to? This is a research of personal nature, I'm not really intending to kill anyone


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    I couldn't really find anything concerning toxicity of Hydrogen.
    The introduction of any gas in a certain amount to the human circulatory system can be fatal; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_embolism. And it seem's like that might hurt.
    Considering that Hydrogen has a boiling point of -252 C, or -423 F, any contact with the liquid form would result in instantaneous freezing.
    Wiki on Hydrogen; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen.
    Perhaps you meant this; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_peroxide .
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    Quote Originally Posted by GiantEvil
    Perhaps you meant this; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_peroxide .
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    yep, kinda what I was getting at. So, bottom line, at least your opinion, it's easy to get to - bleach. It's deadly, hurts and it would freeze you. o.O That's kinda confusing, gotta find a different murder weapon. Any suggestions? Something that can be injected, easy to get to, and pretty quick to kill a person. Again, I'm not really going to kill anyone
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    Quote Originally Posted by JennLonhon
    Quote Originally Posted by GiantEvil
    Perhaps you meant this; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_peroxide .
    TV lies, kill it.
    yep, kinda what I was getting at. So, bottom line, at least your opinion, it's easy to get to - bleach. It's deadly, hurts and it would freeze you. o.O That's kinda confusing, gotta find a different murder weapon. Any suggestions? Something that can be injected, easy to get to, and pretty quick to kill a person. Again, I'm not really going to kill anyone

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    Actually, just read about it @DrRocket. It seems, if we believe Wikipedia

    Small amounts of air often get into the blood circulation accidentally during surgery and other medical procedures (for example a bubble entering an intravenous fluid line), but most of these air emboli enter the veins and are stopped at the lungs, and thus a venous air embolism that shows any symptoms is very rare
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    Lactase deficiency (aka, lactose intolerance) increases hydrogen blood concentrations (a little bit), but the person would probably die from the intense GI problems before the toxic blood hydrogen. What a way to go.
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    Hypothetically, if you would inject someone bleach, what would it look like? Anybody knows?
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    I think the blood cells would slowly die and lead to Hypoxia. I can imagine intense pain throughout the body might also feature...

    How about flooding the body with insulin? That could probably work.
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    there's obviously something wrong here...
    but i would propose water.
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    The problem with injecting water is your kidneys can remove water from your blood relatively quickly, and you have a large volume of blood. So it would probably require a lot of water, injected intravenously very quickly, to do any real damage.

    One that's just occurred to me - heroin overdose. I don't know where to get heroin from personally, but considering the number of users there are around the place, it can't be too hard to get...
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    Yeah you see, both insulin and heroin wouldn't work for me. I can't really get insulin without prescription, or can I? And heroin? Really really have no idea where to find that. Water? Don't know, not sure it would work that good. So, @drowsy turtle you think bleach injection would be painful and not so fast right? Do we know anithing that would be a quick solution?
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    Technically a person should have a prescription for insulin, though I've never been asked when I've bought it. Death by hypoglycemia, while not per say painful, would be "uncomfortable" before the onset of unconsciousness. Probably feel a bit like exsanguination.
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    Yeah, can't really get insulin that easily. What about potassium chloride? Where can I get that? Another idea, salt water? Would it work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JennLonhon
    Yeah, can't really get insulin that easily. What about potassium chloride? Where can I get that? Another idea, salt water? Would it work?
    Potassium chloride is dirt cheap on ebay. around 1$ per pound.
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