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  1. #1 What Amazes You the Most? 
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    Just love reading anything I can about science. There's so much to marvel at that it's difficult to select one aspect of the universe and call it your favorite. Yet I think most of us are amazed by one thing more than any other.

    For me it's DNA...what those microscopic strands of genetic material can accomplish just has me in awe. I mean regardless of what you think, it's something that can occur in this universe. Factor in evolution and it's even more amazing.


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    The tenacity of people in defending erroneous positions that they don't even understand.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DrRocket
    The tenacity of people in defending erroneous positions that they don't even understand.
    I've been and will still be posting on why those people continue to do as such. So, now you, Rocket-Man, will not be so astounded, lost, and amazed the mostest, as you posted, beyond any comprehension of the human condition, of that which becomes those people. Your unknowing is showing.
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    The number, 10^23, give or take, which is an estimate of the number of stars in the observable universe; and the unanswerable questions that that gives rise to.
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    Is that 300 sextillion stars, for that is the new and revised estimate. And, of course, there would also be those beyond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by questor
    Quote Originally Posted by DrRocket
    The tenacity of people in defending erroneous positions that they don't even understand.
    I've been and will still be posting on why those people continue to do as such. So, now you, Rocket-Man, will not be so astounded, lost, and amazed the mostest, as you posted, beyond any comprehension of the human condition, of that which becomes those people. Your unknowing is showing.
    The problem is that they, and you, are clueless.
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    Try venturing beyond physics, Dr. Doom, or get back to your NASA hospital and take some anti-depressants if you feel so anxious, annoyed, moody, low, ugly, and ill inside at the state of the world all the time, or we may begin to think thatís all youíve got in there, which sure isnít much to speak of now is it. To comprehend anything, one must first know why it exists or happens.

    Get with it; what you think is so amazingly astounding is perfectly understandable. Try again. You may have some learning capability left. No, donít just try; do. Or at least attempt some grace, style, and humor, but, no, you are clueless in that area, so, just keep proving it and showing it as much as you can, just as you have been stooged into doing, now again sitting between a Rock and an ET hard place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by questor
    To comprehend anything, one must first know why it exists or happens.
    Is this why Creationists are such innoventors?
    "The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair." ~ Douglas Adams
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    That how can some of my peers, do soo good in maths ???????? :?
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    Questor,
    I understand each of Dr. Rocket's posts. I may not agree with everything he says, but his message is delivered clearly. I have almost no idea what you are rambling about most of the time. Word salad and inflated nonsense. Your arguments, no matter how valid they may be, are lost in a sea of drivel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos
    There's so much to marvel at that it's difficult to select one aspect of the universe and call it your favorite.
    I tend to agree. I am interested in MANY areas, and try not to limit my perspective. With that said... One area that's a big focus for me is neuroscience and other aspects of human cognition and perception. I also like reading about physics and climate and evolution, etc... but neuroscience is one that always causes my ears to perk up a bit. Additionally, I find myself drawn to discussions about the evolution of religion and belief in deities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophiolite
    Questor,
    I understand each of Dr. Rocket's posts. I may not agree with everything he says, but his message is delivered clearly. I have almost no idea what you are rambling about most of the time. Word salad and inflated nonsense. Your arguments, no matter how valid they may be, are lost in a sea of drivel.
    Sorry that the valid arguments are you are lost to you, Oph, but again, like Mr. RockHead, you fail to undo them, fail to provide your own solutions, and can only make a rerun and a repeat of a lone generalization without any specifics or evidence, which not only add no information content, but surely shows that you cannot even use the scientific method of showing evidence. Very lame. Do you have any threads of your own? No.

    Now get to work and undo all of my posts. You can't, so "bye".
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    Quote Originally Posted by questor
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    Questor,
    I understand each of Dr. Rocket's posts. I may not agree with everything he says, but his message is delivered clearly. I have almost no idea what you are rambling about most of the time. Word salad and inflated nonsense. Your arguments, no matter how valid they may be, are lost in a sea of drivel.
    Sorry that the valid arguments are you are lost to you, Oph, but again, like Mr. RockHead, you fail to undo them, fail to provide your own solutions, and can only make a rerun and a repeat of a lone generalization without any specifics or evidence, which not only add no information content, but surely shows that you cannot even use the scientific method of showing evidence. Very lame. Do you have any threads of your own? No.

    Now get to work and undo all of my posts. You can't, so "bye".
    On the other hand Ophiolite's posts quite commonly contain substantive thoughts and hence value.

    You apparently have opted to eschew content and make it up with volume.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrRocket
    On the other hand Ophiolite's posts quite commonly contain substantive thoughts and hence value.
    Yes, they often do, but this time, as like you, there is just the repeated rut of a pronouncement and a fiat floating in the air, ungrounded, so, no value is shown. Apparently, the only resort would be to just do it more. So, let's wait and see, but I guess now it would be more difficult for that to happen, since it has been dealt with several times already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos
    Just love reading anything I can about science. There's so much to marvel at that it's difficult to select one aspect of the universe and call it your favorite. Yet I think most of us are amazed by one thing more than any other.

    For me it's DNA...what those microscopic strands of genetic material can accomplish just has me in awe. I mean regardless of what you think, it's something that can occur in this universe. Factor in evolution and it's even more amazing.
    For me it's the universe itself. I really like the journey of trying to find the truth of it, and who knows maybe we'll find some very exotic forms of alien DNA along the way and if that alien DNA is advanced enough the neuroscience of it be more than very interesting. But I'm thinking the neuroscience of self aware machines will become very exciting long before we ever know the truth of the universe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lance Wenban
    I'm thinking the neuroscience of self aware machines will become very exciting long before we ever know the truth of the universe.
    Just curious... If "self aware machines" ever become real, do you think they will (must?) have the same type of neural infrastructure as conscious organisms? Basically, are synapses and myelin sheathing and neurotransmitters and sodium/potassium channels etc. required (in your view) for a machine to be "self-aware?"

    I don't think so, and would guess that neither do you, but it was left as an open question given your phrasing. In short, will neuroscience even apply since neural architecture may not be required?
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    Quote Originally Posted by inow
    Quote Originally Posted by Lance Wenban
    I'm thinking the neuroscience of self aware machines will become very exciting long before we ever know the truth of the universe.
    Just curious... If "self aware machines" ever become real, do you think they will (must?) have the same type of neural infrastructure as conscious organisms? Basically, are synapses and myelin sheathing and neurotransmitters and sodium/potassium channels etc. required (in your view) for a machine to be "self-aware?"

    I don't think so, and would guess that neither do you, but it was left as an open question given your phrasing. In short, will neuroscience even apply since neural architecture may not be required?
    You are correct, I don't think so. However I don't have any other terminology to use to describe the similar function in self aware thinking machines. If you know of the correct phrasing by all means let me know, and if it has not been coined yet, maybe you have some ideas that would be appropriate. I'm am curious as to why you think neural architecture may not be required?
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    You don't need a nervous system if you can do the same with electronics (as one example).
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    Quote Originally Posted by inow
    You don't need a nervous system if you can do the same with electronics (as one example).
    Yes I understand what you are saying, but the act of thinking from a self aware point of view, should have something in common that can be studied, regardless of the type of mind doing the thinking. It's definitely a handicap not knowing the correct terminology to talk about this subject with you.

    I know a lot of people are afraid of what they imagine might happen when machines become self aware. I would very much like to be alive when it happens, but I fear I don't have that many years left. IMO the human race won't reach the stars without the help of super intelligent machines.
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    Indeed. My only challenge was to the prefix "neuro." Didn't seem to apply in this case, but the central point you're making is spot on. It's also "what amazes you the most." 8)
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    Quote Originally Posted by inow
    Indeed. My only challenge was to the prefix "neuro." Didn't seem to apply in this case, but the central point you're making is spot on. It's also "what amazes you the most." 8)
    Well maybe, but it's a close race. I'm sure an outside observer such as yourself might see the race from a different point of view. But like trying to pick a favorite movie, I like to many of them to pick an all time favorite one. However for the sake of letting someone know what type of movies I like, I'd say pick almost any intense action movie and it'll be one of my favorites.
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    The properties of light, amaze me, that time essentially slows to allow the speed of light to stay constant. If we should worship anything, surely it should be light, the giver of life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghost13
    The properties of light, amaze me, that time essentially slows to allow the speed of light to stay constant. If we should worship anything, surely it should be light, the giver of life.
    Yes light is amazing in a big way and I'm very interested in the statement ďthat time essentially slows to allow the speed of light to stay constantĒ. Can you elaborate on that idea a bit? How did you come by that information?

    Time also slows as you approach a gravity source. The stronger the gravity source and the closer you get to it the slower time gets.

    So it appears that the properties of time are equal at the speed of light and at the event horizon of a black hole and we don't know what happens to it beyond the speed of light or on the other side of an event horizon. I would sure be interested on the most current thinking on this subject.
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    A photon would seem to be ageless at the speed of light, as women are always young and always right, for time has stopped. Maybe.
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    Music and the computers always amazed me.I like music it touch my soul and computers is the most amazed thing in my routine life.i always find lot of things new in computers.
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    I am in love with math, physics and a number of many other intellectual pursuits, but if I had to choose my one favorite thing in the universe i would choose apple cinnamon pie
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    my own stupidity amazes me
    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." (Philip K. Dick)
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    Quote Originally Posted by marnixR
    my own stupidity amazes me
    If you weren't one of the good guys I'd be sooooo tempted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos
    Quote Originally Posted by marnixR
    my own stupidity amazes me
    If you weren't one of the good guys I'd be sooooo tempted.
    be my guest - i can take it
    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." (Philip K. Dick)
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    Quote Originally Posted by marnixR
    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos
    Quote Originally Posted by marnixR
    my own stupidity amazes me
    If you weren't one of the good guys I'd be sooooo tempted.
    be my guest - i can take it
    OK, a lot of us are amazed by your own _________. :wink:
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos
    Quote Originally Posted by marnixR
    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos
    Quote Originally Posted by marnixR
    my own stupidity amazes me
    If you weren't one of the good guys I'd be sooooo tempted.
    be my guest - i can take it
    OK, a lot of us are amazed by your own _________. :wink:
    oh for the agony of not knowing !
    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." (Philip K. Dick)
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    Quote Originally Posted by marnixR
    oh for the agony of not knowing !


    Knowing one's own level of stupidity is amazing. But then, how would a stupid person know it? However if you are a savant with a ridiculously high IQ then you just might be saying you're amazed at how smart you are. Then your stupid level surpasses my smart level. You may have orchestrated my entire retort in such a way that I actually ended up complimenting you and making a fool of myself. Amazing!!
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    i can't be held responsible for your actions, but i'm willing to leave the credit where it belongs
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    Quote Originally Posted by marnixR
    i can't be held responsible for your actions, but i'm willing to leave the credit where it belongs
    Humility is an amazing thing :wink:
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos
    Just love reading anything I can about science. There's so much to marvel at that it's difficult to select one aspect of the universe and call it your favorite. Yet I think most of us are amazed by one thing more than any other.

    For me it's DNA...what those microscopic strands of genetic material can accomplish just has me in awe. I mean regardless of what you think, it's something that can occur in this universe. Factor in evolution and it's even more amazing.
    For me, it's how you're always trying to troll my posts!. I mean, regardless of what you may think, it's something that has occured twice so far. Factor in the fact that your posts are not funny at all, and it's even more amazing!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lokariototal
    For me, it's how you're always trying to troll my posts!. I mean, regardless of what you may think, it's something that has occured twice so far. Factor in the fact that your posts are not funny at all, and it's even more amazing!!!
    Always? Trying? Only two? I'm sure you know they weren't meant to be funny. Just my feeble attempts to inject a subtle message that you obviously didn't consider worthy but that was probably because your superior intellect wouldn't allow you to drop to my level. I've no doubt your well written thread titles and OP's disguise an extraordinary level of thought that ordinary mortals such as myself can't even begin to recognize.
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