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  1. #1 India- democracy or communist? 
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    History tells that many countries under dictator/monarchy had stable economy. Those whose country politics fell by war/economy crisis turned to become democrats. If we study most democratic countries have been affected by poverty, currency devaluation. So india is not a capitalist country and calls itself democrates. But is not unstable economy, so is it a communist like china selling food for free?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ginger
    so is it a communist like china selling food for free?
    Some food perhaps, but there were several stories last week about the price of onions and other basics in China going up dramatically and the government's attempts to cap them before it fosters widespread unrest.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110107/wl_nm/us_food_18


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    Democracy will never truly exist in India as long as the " Caste System " remains in place.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_in_India
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    i smell a false duality - why couldn't a country be democratic and at the same time not capitalist in the US mould ?
    countries like Sweden spring to mind
    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." (Philip K. Dick)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Wilson
    Democracy will never truly exist in India as long as the " Caste System " remains in place.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_in_India
    Well that's a No True Scotsman argument. Democracy exists in India, even if the country isn't entirely equitable. It's a fair criticism of equity and human rights in India though.
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    in my view china became a democratic in 1950s!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Wilson
    Democracy will never truly exist in India as long as the " Caste System " remains in place.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_in_India

    If that's the case then we cannot even say America is also a democratic country because in America also there are many social evils and discrimination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ginger
    in my view china became a democratic in 1950s!
    Your view would be wrong...
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    Quote Originally Posted by vilyanurchandra
    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Wilson
    Democracy will never truly exist in India as long as the " Caste System " remains in place.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_in_India

    If that's the case then we cannot even say America is also a democratic country because in America also there are many social evils and discrimination.
    OK, I had not thought this through properly, and i_feel_tiredsleepy has picked up on this too. I am wrong.
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    i had a dream once in it the background was indian societies airy progress. In that dream whenever i travel to some place like for job, there are many villains who before i reach that place already access it. They the hidden villains of society acts like parasite filling ears spreading bad things about me. So i never get a job. Then i get a call that many american youngsters who seek me have come to india. In india, though there is a rich-poor society, from sri-lanka to iran to china, budhist societies so we are taught to eat only some food which is sufficient to our intake mouth. Even though some indian people may be boasting very rich. While the americans who came to india were financially backed up by their lavish american money spending government. They stayed in an unknown building hotel and they had so much money power that they could shipped in anything they wanted from USA...lamborghini cars, food, dresses, diamonds...etc. They never for once thought about money spent like in india people spend hours thinking how much money spend and even compare with others as well. But the welthy americans fell victim to the hidden societies parasites villains(like aliens). When i came to meet them the building hotel in which they were living had fallen. In the debris many rescuers and fire-brigadiers were checking survivors by removing the concrete. And to everyone surprise, the wealthy americans stood upright with lower half-mangled like supernatural. They raised a toast of champagne towards me. The americans were well behaved and never looked like sinners. They had everything that a man could possibly gain, but perhaps they wanted some minds trivial state of their dreams. Though i think the hotel building fell from some alien vibrations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ginger
    in my view china became a democratic in 1950s!
    That is absurd.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGJoaHr2QdM
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrRocket
    Quote Originally Posted by ginger
    in my view china became a democratic in 1950s!
    That is absurd.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGJoaHr2QdM
    Issues can be created and media could rewrite something else. No one understands chinese!
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    Chinese people understand Chinese, and so do many Western political scientist who study Chinese politics, and I have read books written by some of the leading American scholars of Chinese politics, and translations of works by Chinese scholars, and not a one of them, or even the current Chinese government, would claim China was a democracy under Mao.
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    so you can imagine how foolish and deceptive the world can be.
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    in that dream i think americans are ruffian people, their culture, history, george washington, abraham lincoln only limited to archies comics.
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    Just a year ago india celebrated its independence day. Indian pm master manmohan hatharusinghe vickramaditya (of gandhar/gondor) gave a big speech. He said in his accent-'though i am not a chinese, i take pride upon the progress of communist india. Though how many neighbours shout about democracy, we indians believe in sovereign communism. We cannot import czar toys to make our children happy. So our communist marxist toy makers are self reliant in making our own toys. Though the developed americans russians have significantly made dildos, implants, pleasurers..we indians look forward to become progressive like them.'
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    so on the brighter side china can be called a successful democracy and india don't mind being called a communist.
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    Apart from the written history of india, perhaps the mughal monarchy was toppled by muslims who latter left india. Since majority of ruling kings of india were self proclaimed czar hindus. And the royal dressed indian army wouldn't serve a muslim ruler. So there is a unwritten history of hindu rulers in period of 14th century to 1750 a.d.!
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    I was watching this movie- rocky, in which american capitalist democracy is shown. Its like an economy society with no monetary. People living on cents having a free community living access to theatres, colleges etc. Though they maintain distinct between rich and poor. Then the dollar craze high value is only for business economy and international farings. Other than that americans work well as scientists, medicines and workmanship. Rather than stinkers.
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    There is no universally accepted definition of democracy, but equality, freedom, and the right to choose our leaders have been identified as important characteristics of democracy. Lets see if India meets these requirements.

    Equality - All citizens in India are equal before law ( as stated in the Indian Constitution, this is a fundamental right) , i.e may you be the president of the country, or a common man, or may you be the richest or the poorest, all citizens are treated equally in front of law.It also means the
    prohibition of discrimination on grounds of religion, race, caste, sex or place of birth, and equality of opportunity in matters of employment, abolition of untouchability and abolition of titles.

    Freedom -
    Right to freedom which includes speech and expression, assembly, association or union or cooperatives, movement, residence, and right to practice any profession or occupation (some of these rights are subject to security of the State, friendly relations with foreign countries, public order, decency or morality), right to life and liberty,right to education,protection in respect to conviction in offences and protection against arrest and detention in certain cases.

    Right to vote - All citizens above the age of 18 can participate in voting, i.e actively participate in choosing our leaders.

    The above points are all mentioned in the constitution and are fundamental to the constitution.

    Isn't this enough proof to prove that India is a democracy in all rights ?

    By the way, I read the above posts and noticed that some people are associating Captalism with democracy, which is a very poor misconception they have.Being captalist doesn't mean you are Democratic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ginger View Post
    Just a year ago india celebrated its independence day. Indian pm master manmohan hatharusinghe vickramaditya (of gandhar/gondor) gave a big speech. He said in his accent-'though i am not a chinese, i take pride upon the progress of communist india. Though how many neighbours shout about democracy, we indians believe in sovereign communism. We cannot import czar toys to make our children happy. So our communist marxist toy makers are self reliant in making our own toys. Though the developed americans russians have significantly made dildos, implants, pleasurers..we indians look forward to become progressive like them.'
    I really don't get it. Indian PMs name is " Manmohan Singh" not "manmohan hatharusinghe vickramaditya", and I have gone through hIs Independence Speech a couple of times, and I heard nothing of the sort ginger has written about. Here is a link to the complete text of his 2010 Independence day speech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNorthStar View Post
    I really don't get it. Indian PMs name is " Manmohan Singh" not "manmohan hatharusinghe vickramaditya", and I have gone through hIs Independence Speech a couple of times, and I heard nothing of the sort ginger has written about.
    You may notice that Ginger is suspended. Banned actually, for posting nonsense.
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    Hmm, very well, I went through a few of ginger's post, and the reason for his suspension is crystal clear.
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