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  1. #1 Einstein or Hitler? 
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    Can you tell the difference?

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    Yes.


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    I read each question fairly quickly, but I had already decided to hit Hitler every time, this gave me a score of 50%. Will you please tell us the purpose of your test ?
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    I got two wrong.
    Most were pretty easy. I read Mein Kampf many years ago and recognized Einstien's non-personal god.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inow
    Yes.
    What was your score?
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    I did a left to right zip-zag pattern all the way down and got 50%. I did a right to left and got 58%. Did Hitler speak English, and if so where these quotes all spoken or written in English originally ? If not I'm not sure how they can really be called "quotes".

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    The "test" is designed to be deceptive.

    The "quotes" are re-interpreted and re-translated in such a way to make them more hostile or academic or aggressive or intellectual than they truly are.

    Take, for instance, this passage by Hitler in Mein Kampf:

    "The so-called 'intellectuals' still look down with infinite superciliousness on anyone who has not been through the prescribed schools and allowed them to pump the necessary knowledge into him. "

    That was the "test's" version.

    The actual text reads, "Die sogenannte Intelligenz sieht ja ohnehin immer mit einer wahrhaft unendlichen Herablassung auf jeden her-unter, der nicht durch die obligaten Schulen durchgezogen wurde und sich das ntige Wissen einpumpen lie."

    The more standard translation is, "The so called 'intelligentsia' always looks down with a really limitless condescension on anyone who has not been dragged through the obligatory schools and had the necessary knowledge pumped into him."

    Note the insertions of "intellectuals," "superciliousness," and "infinite." Subconsciously, the word "infinite" is always going to be associated with Einstein. However, "unendlichen" does translate best to infinite in modern times, most printed translations probably use "limitless." "Superciliousness" isn't even a word used in English with any frequency to make it useful, but it sounds intellectual (which is what we expect Einstein to be) when read. Regardless, "Herablassung" should always be translated as "condescension."

    I suspect we could do this all day with the rest of the "quotes" in the "test."
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    Interesting analysis. Makes me feel better about my score of 58%.
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    I wrote the original test in English using standard translations of the texts. I wrote the German version only after that.
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    Superciliousness is definitely *not* a standard translation of Herablassung.

    What was the translation of Mein Kampf you used?
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    I got 67%
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkinWalker
    Superciliousness is definitely *not* a standard translation of Herablassung.

    What was the translation of Mein Kampf you used?
    By standard translation I meant the most commonly used translation of the entire book. This does not mean that the translation of every word in the book is the most commonly used translation of that word.

    You can easily find the text I used by highliting the phrase you quoted and hitting Google search button.
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