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    Hello members, today i was just bored so i opened up any book, and apparently it was the HOLY BIBLE.
    i was reading the genesis, everything was well comprehended, until i got to this sentence;
    (this is the king James Version of the bible) also the usage of the word "us" became very apparent in many other versions of the bible.

    "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us"
    i just got confused at the part where it says "us", so what does that mean more than one God? Or am i misinterpreting the whole sentence?

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    I'm not sure, but I know that there are lots of parts in the bible that contradict each other and have been debunked many times...

    I really don't have any trust in religion and I prefer to only agree with the logically proven and scientifically (and theoretically) possible. Therefore I am an atheist...

    But, it would seem that the extract you quoted does imply there is more than one 'god'...


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    The rational explanation is that the earliest texts of the bible, which are the Pentateuch, are the culmination of oral traditions and ethnic/nationalist propaganda that emerged from a previously polytheistic society.

    The Israelites are, scientifically speaking, descendants of the Canaanite culture. All physical evidence points to this as well as much of the literary evidence (such as the early passages of Genesis).

    Early Canaanite gods are mentioned and there's a distinct plural form of "gods" by way of the word elohim (singular for god is "el"). The Canaanite pantheon included many gods and goddesses, including Yahweh, El, Ashera, and several Ba'als (which means "divine Lord") among others. Yahweh and El were the two that won out in the end and the newly monotheistic cult of Judaism dismissed the rest. Its very likely that the two gods were favored by geographically separated groups of Jews, who, upon uniting, simply combined the two into a single, conceptual entity.

    Scholars have long understood that there are many narratives within the "book" of Genesis, two of which include the "J" and "E" narratives, which stand for "Jahwist" and "Elohist" respectively.
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    The KJV makes use of Early Modern English grammar, at the time kings and other people of importance would refer to themselves in the plural. If the writers of the Bible thought that it would have been appropriate for the King of England to use "us" instead of "me," they may have thought the same about God. Whether, that's the reason or not I don't know, I don't speak Latin, Greek, or Hebrew, so I can't check earlier renditions of the story.
    "I almost went to bed
    without remembering
    the four white violets
    I put in the button-hole
    of your green sweater

    and how i kissed you then
    and you kissed me
    shy as though I'd
    never been your lover "
    - Leonard Cohen
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    That's probably the biggest load of crap I've read in a while. Just saying.
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