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  1. #1 Qaeda suspect tries to blow up U.S. passenger jet. British. 
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    Yet another Home grown terrorist. When is our government going to do something about this evil few we have living and preaching amongst us. It has got to the stage that I am frightened to death of catching the tube and flying is out of the question. When I go out shopping or travelling to work I look at every one who is Asian as a Terrorist. I have a few friends and work colleagues who are Asian and I just can't bring myself to trust them any more. When we do have a conversation it leads to the damage and loss of life that the British army have caused to Afghanistan and Iraq. They take no responsibility for the young Asians who are brainwashed into killing innocent people. Are we the British public ever going to be safe in our own country. I pray that 2010 is the year peace can be found.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelrose
    I am frightened to death of catching the tube and flying is out of the question. When I go out shopping or travelling to work I look at every one who is Asian as a Terrorist. I have a few friends and work colleagues who are Asian and I just can't bring myself to trust them any more. When we do have a conversation it leads to the damage and loss of life that the British army have caused to Afghanistan and Iraq. They take no responsibility for the young Asians who are brainwashed into killing innocent people.
    Do you realize how hateful and silly you sound? Do you realize how you are truly no better than that which you claim to detest when making such inaccurate and broad sweeping generalizations as you have above?

    Further, why should your Asian friends take responsibility for what a tiny fraction of what other Asians have done? Do you take responsibility when someone form Manchester does some idiotic or violent thing? I should presume you do not, so why the double standards?

    All in all, I find your post rather troubling, and I see far more detriment to our society coming from the type of thinking you've espoused above than I see coming from a couple of religiots blowing crap up. Yes, they're dangerous and should be stopped, but a bomb is no where near as impactful to our society as is the bigoted style of thinking you have shown here.

    Think on that, will ye?


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    If you don't mind, I cleaned up the link. It was forcing browser windows to expand or put a scrollbar at the bottom, which interferes with reading. I also deleted the posts that followed since they were about correcting the link and metadiscussion rather than topical.

    Quote Originally Posted by angelrose
    Yet another Home grown terrorist. When is our government going to do something about this evil few we have living and preaching amongst us.
    The questions, of course, then becomes "what should be done?" and, "what value must we put on our freedoms to accomplish the ends when the means will necessarily limit them?"

    Still, I'm in agreement that there is much to be done in both your country and mine, but I suspect our agreement diverges at that last common ancestor.

    It has got to the stage that I am frightened to death of catching the tube and flying is out of the question. When I go out shopping or travelling to work I look at every one who is Asian as a Terrorist
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    This is an understandable and, perhaps, natural emotional response, but it's ultimately an irrational one. One need only compare statistics of terrorist events to other risks while shopping, traveling via the tube or airplane, or even just crossing the street to visit a public loo and one will then discover that "Asians" are not the rational worry.

    In 2007, 646 pedestrians were killed in road accidents in Great Britain [1]. Conversely, the total number of terrorist attacks for the entire year of 2007 in all of Great Britain was 2 [2]. That wasn't "22" by the way. It was "2." One of the "2's" is my second reference to Wikipedia listed below.

    Perhaps WikiPedia is wrong. Perhaps the person who edited that page was ignorant or neglectful. But I suspect the number isn't much higher.

    Therefore, there is more to worry about from your own established and well-meaning, benevolent neighbors of British origin than your new, allegedly malevolent neighbors from "Asia."

    Incidentally, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab wasn't Asian. He was Nigerian (different continent -Africa). He's the son of a prominent Nigerian banker [3], but clearly misguided by a combination of, perhaps, mental illness and religious superstition. That he was Muslim seems to be a coincidence to his delusions. He could easily have been Christian or Hindu, both superstitions have produced murderers in the past and present, or he could have been of African Traditional Religion (ATR), which also has its problems with violence toward innocents as a result of delusion (recent murders of children who are thought to be "witches", etc.

    The problem is religion. Not ancestry.

    I pray that 2010 is the year peace can be found.
    As long as people keep relying on ineffective methods like this, it isn't likely to change any time soon. Rather than prayer, might I suggest dialog, discourse, and a hand of friendship. Bake some cookies and invite some "Asians" to tea. Get to know them. Let them get to know you.

    Ignorance is your enemy. Not "Asians." But it's also the enemy of those who are preaching hatred toward young, impressionable immigrants. The question now becomes, "who makes the first effort at peace? The host or the guest?" If you have unruly guests, you must either appeal to their sense of friendship or send them home. The latter will, perhaps, solve the immediate problem, but the former can potentially build lasting relations for the longterm.


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    1. http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1208
    2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ncidents,_2007
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    I agree with the above advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by angelrose
    It has got to the stage that I am frightened to death of catching the tube and flying is out of the question. When I go out shopping or travelling to work I look at every one who is Asian as a Terrorist. I have a few friends and work colleagues who are Asian and I just can't bring myself to trust them any more.
    What this tells me is, you're fearful. And because objectively your surroundings don't really warrant this level of fear, I think perhaps you have it in you to feel afraid, and find things to be afraid of. That's natural. We humans are built to be afraid. Fear guaranteed our survival in more dangerous ages. But look at yourself now: you're living in this modern, safe world, thinking with a sophisticated mind, and yet those ancient instincts to spy danger got the better of you. You can lead rather than follow. Recognize that you need to feel afraid of something, and decide what that will be.

    Seriously a lot of men do this for anger. It works.
    A pong by any other name is still a pong. -williampinn
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