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    I read a story the other day that a man was shot 6 times, point blank, but survived as the bullets missed vital organs by mm's. in an interview he said it was a "miracle". Am i right in thinking that the multiverse theory says that he would of died an infinate amount of times in other parellel universes?

    And if this is correct do you think that proving the theory would put an end to the "miralce" idea?


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    Religiously speaking: It was a mircale
    Scientifically speaking: It was a statistical improbability.
    Pseduo-scientifically speaking: He was killed in other parallel universes.

    Miracle is bascially an idea that religion uses to make certain people feel special, as if 'god' himself chose them to live. This may be true if divine intervention occured (love Pulp Fiction btw), however it seems more sane and logical to simply state that it just happened.

    The gun man should have shot him point blank in the head several times. Lets test that mircale theory then.

    I also believe that a pseudo scientific claim will not end a religious one. Pure proved science doesn't even do that, so your idea will have science AND religion against you.

    How exactly does parallel universes and dying there and not her disprove miracles? I have already died in many parallel universes technically, so I am a miracle that it hasn't happened to me, a walking mircale. Then again nothing drastic has happened to me to call myself a mircale. So by those terms we are all miracles, if anything then parallel universes proves the existence of miracles, and at the same time only by changing it logically to ordinary becoming miracles not extra ordinary.

    What makes you curious about these 'miracles'?


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    Actually, if you're going to be shot by a handgun, your chances of survival are better at close range under some conditions. This is because the muzzle velocity is still at its greatest and theres more chance of deeper penetration. Its when the bullet slows down where it starts to due funky things like mushroom, break apart, ricochet off and along ribs, etc.

    If he was extremely lucky, they were all through and through, carrying momentum of the bullet with them instead of terminating in his body. This transfer of momentum can kill even if a bullet doesn't penetrate body armor.
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    the probability of a person surviving a shotgun accident is vastly superior to the probability that a stone statue will move its arm - the level of likelihood in the latter case stretches disbelief to such an extent that it would count as a miracle

    the first instance only counts as a newspaper "miracle"
    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." (Philip K. Dick)
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    There isn't any such thing as a multiverse theory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370
    There isn't any such thing as a multiverse theory.
    Harold - Can you please elaborate on why you've said this? I am somewhat confused, especially considering the link below. Thanks.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse
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    Quote Originally Posted by inow
    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370
    There isn't any such thing as a multiverse theory.
    Harold - Can you please elaborate on why you've said this? I am somewhat confused, especially considering the link below. Thanks.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse
    Multiversal theories are psuedo scientific, all relating theories to that theory come from string theory, and this is exactly what it is. A theory with very little evidence.

    Do you think perhaps it would be better unifying Quantum Theory and Relativity first? Creating the most important invention in the modern world (fusion)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by inow
    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370
    There isn't any such thing as a multiverse theory.
    Harold - Can you please elaborate on why you've said this? I am somewhat confused, especially considering the link below. Thanks.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse
    In the context of this thread he is referring to the many universes interpretation of quantum mechanics. It is just an interpretation, without any different predictions than conventional interpretations, so there is no way of testing it. Therefore nobody will ever prove it.

    Besides that, it would not apply to somebody dying from a gunshot wound, which does not involve any quantum mechanical explanations.
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    Thanks, Harold. Precisely as I expected. I had a similar concern, namely that it was a hypothesis, interpretation, or conjecture... not a theory. Cheers.
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    A sort of sixth sense also have a place in this kind of interpretation and this miracles and all
    This isn't any kind of magic and all Its just thoughts of mind
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