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  • Yes i do, and your theory seems likely.

    1 16.67%
  • Yes i do, but not your theory. (Post your own)

    3 50.00%
  • I dont believe in reincarnation in any way.

    2 33.33%
  • I believe in religious reincarnation, not scientific.

    0 0%
  • I believe in it but that god made the universe. (Both)

    0 0%
  • Im not sure what to believe / Other.

    0 0%
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Thread: Scientific reincarnation, do you believe its possible?

  1. #1 Scientific reincarnation, do you believe its possible? 
    Forum Ph.D. Raziell's Avatar
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    My take on it:

    Time dont really "exist" for non living matter. Time is relative to the observer and non living matter cant perceive time so it simply dont exist for them. Easy enough right?

    When you fall asleep at night, and wake up the next day. It feels like an instant, because time doesent exist for you when not concious.

    This would mean that...

    If reincarnation is possible, (thinking science but the same would apply for religious people) then when you die the rebirth into a new aware lifeform will feel instantanious.

    This is where people give themselves to much credit by saying "But it wont be ME" Well duh genious, ofcourse it wont be the same person, animal, insect or whatever lifeform your were in any previous setting. If determinism is true and the universe simply is cause and effect (most likely imo) then who you are now is no different than the result of an extremely advanced biological "AI".

    Though even if we dont have free will, what we experience is still PERCEIVED. meaning it is real to us. Just as you reading this now is real.

    If all the following of these are true:

    Determinism
    The universe is oscillatory
    Time dont exist for non-living matter (this one is pretty much a given)

    Then we will always experience life, and death will instantaniously bring you to the next one.


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    WYSIWYG Moderator marnixR's Avatar
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    and what if your initial premise that "time doesn't exist for inanimate matter" turns out to be false ?


    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." (Philip K. Dick)
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    I heard of this one, but doesn't it depend if the universe will contract in a Big Crunch or whether it will continue expanding ... last I heard it will continue expanding. Or is this a different theory ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marnixR
    and what if your initial premise that "time doesn't exist for inanimate matter" turns out to be false ?

    What i meant was that time doesent "exist" for dead/inanimate matter because you cant perceive time then.

    Its the same as when you sleep. If you cant experience time it goes fast forward because you need to 1) Be a sentinent lifeform and 2) Be concious, to experience time.

    A rock cant register time as it isnt a living organic lifeform that has the sensory organs to perceive it. Therefore time does not exist for this rock. I dont mean it literally, as in that time dont exist for the rock because ofcourse it does. Hopefully you understand what im getting at?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rideforever
    I heard of this one, but doesn't it depend if the universe will contract in a Big Crunch or whether it will continue expanding ... last I heard it will continue expanding. Or is this a different theory ?
    Yes this is assuming the big crunch is true. Big bang, retraction,big bang, retraction - in an infinite cycle of time.
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    I believe in reincarnation in the form of cryonics. If you get your head frozen when you die, you may be reincarnated as an upload or even given a new body.

    As for your theory, I don't understand it, it looks pretty confused and vague.
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