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    A few days ago I received a trail cam video that shows what may or may not be a black bear. The thing that most makes it seem like something besides a black bear is that it appears to be brown and West Virginia isn't really known for having other color phases of black bears. So I'd like your opinions on it please. I have temporarily posted it on my website for people to take a look at because every attempt to e-mail it to bear experts has failed. You can download it at http://steventitchenell.tripod.com/wvbig/index.html Just click on "New WV video"
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    I have sent the link to Chris Ryan, the leader of the "West Virginia Black Bear Project", & Dr. Lynn Rogers. A bear expert in Minnesota. Chris Ryan said it could be anything with black or dark fur & I haven't heard from Dr. Rogers yet
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    The trail cam was about 3' above the ground


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    I can't find the video on your web page, Steven, otherwise I'd love to comment


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcane_Mathematician
    I can't find the video on your web page, Steven, otherwise I'd love to comment
    Right under the second video on the page, it says "New WV video" Just click on that to download the video
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    Got it. Well, imho, that doesn't look like a bear. That doesn't even look like much of an animal at all, really. It looks like a patch of animal fur thats very ruffled and matted. It doesn't appear brown to me, it looks like it's a dark shade of gray, probably black. I don't think it's a bipedal creature, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcane_Mathematician
    Got it. Well, imho, that doesn't look like a bear. That doesn't even look like much of an animal at all, really. It looks like a patch of animal fur thats very ruffled and matted. It doesn't appear brown to me, it looks like it's a dark shade of gray, probably black. I don't think it's a bipedal creature, though.
    Well I doubt that it's just a patch of animal fur someone is dangling in front of the trail cam because it wasn't a trail cam set up to try to capture evidence of Bigfoot. It was just a trail cam a man had put up on a piece of property he has leased for deer hunting to see what deer are in the area. At this point, I'm personally leaning more toward it being a bear cub but my brother, after hearing the height the cam is above the ground, that it might be a Raccoon. Thank you for your input
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    What I meant was there isn't a good way to discern what kind of animal it may even be. But I'd lean more towards your thought of a bear cub, maybe even a mother, simply because it never has an even remotely in-focus shot, and is 3' above the ground. Either way though it's most definitely an animal of some type, but that type is rather hard to determine based on the data presented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcane_Mathematician
    What I meant was there isn't a good way to discern what kind of animal it may even be. But I'd lean more towards your thought of a bear cub, maybe even a mother, simply because it never has an even remotely in-focus shot, and is 3' above the ground. Either way though it's most definitely an animal of some type, but that type is rather hard to determine based on the data presented.
    There is a mother bear in the area whos cub was recently hit by a car. This is known because this is near a very small town which is where the cub was killed and then the nother was seen wondering around the town like she was looking for her cub. I doubt this is the mother though because, if anything, the limb that the video appears to show, could be smaller than it looks because of close proximity to the lens. This would also explain the blurriness. This could be a sibling though, doing a bit of exploring on it's own. Black bear cubs should be about 7 months old now
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    whatever it is was definitely VERY close to that camera, I'm kinda surprised it wasn't knocked over, to be honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcane_Mathematician
    whatever it is was definitely VERY close to that camera, I'm kinda surprised it wasn't knocked over, to be honest.
    Trail cams are attached to the sides of trees so they can't be knocked over. Being actually attached to the tree is what makes me doubt my brother's suggestion of a raccoon. I would think if a raccon climbed up the tree to right below the trail cam, you would see the paw at some point. An animal standing on the ground could be off to one side and move it's leg/arm in front of the lens without revealing a foot/paw
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    I didn't know that, but I figure it's a rather good thing to do, considering.
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    Since most of the opinions I got were inconclusive and because the more I looked at it, the more I saw a bear cub, I have removed the video from my website
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