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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8TJlQlPi4s (SKY NEWS)

    from the article: ... A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy Generator. It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual motion. It runs by itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus creating completely free electrical energy... A Perpetual motion device refers to a machine that runs perpetually i.e. indefinitely, and produces a larger amount of energy than it consumes. Thus, it produces free energy indefinitely, runs by itself, without having to need a third-party device or resource to power it...

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    You mean, it uses electromagnets, which are powered by the mains, so in fact the energy is coming from the mains.

    All it does, then, is lose energy by converting it into magnetic energy then back into electrical. I know a device which can do this without needing to convert it twice: a wire.

    These things always have the same fault...


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    What is it with these crazies and always using magnets for their perpetual bullshit ideas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darius
    What is it with these crazies and always using magnets for their perpetual bullshit ideas?
    generator + BATTERY

    should work.. no?
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    Oh, a battery powered generator? Why use the generator at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drowsy turtle
    Oh, a battery powered generator? Why use the generator at all?
    Now don't be silly. If perpetual motion worked, you'd still need some power to go into the device. The idea behind perpetual motion is a device that outputs more power than is put in, so the generator would indeed be a requirement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darius
    Quote Originally Posted by drowsy turtle
    Oh, a battery powered generator? Why use the generator at all?
    Now don't be silly. If perpetual motion worked, you'd still need some power to go into the device. The idea behind perpetual motion is a device that outputs more power than is put in, so the generator would indeed be a requirement.
    Perhaps a handle to turn, then? Don't see why it needs a battery.
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    I have a perpetual motion machine running on my desk right now. It's a PIC micro-controller powered by a 5 volt regulator that gets it's power from a 8ah 12 volt battery that is charged by.....the sun

    I could add batteries to the circuit (replacing old ones) hot swap solar panels after 30 years or so and connect new circuits in without ever loosing this perpetual source of power I have found.

    I find it stupid that people are looking for free power when it's been around forever. When the sun no longer shines....who gives a shit about free power
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    Quote Originally Posted by (In)Sanity
    I have a perpetual motion machine running on my desk right now. It's a PIC micro-controller powered by a 5 volt regulator that gets it's power from a 8ah 12 volt battery that is charged by.....the sun

    I could add batteries to the circuit (replacing old ones) hot swap solar panels after 30 years or so and connect new circuits in without ever loosing this perpetual source of power I have found.

    I find it stupid that people are looking for free power when it's been around forever. When the sun no longer shines....who gives a shit about free power
    That's a.... different..... way of looking at it.
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    That's one way to (sort of) look at it. Current solar cells are CRAZY inefficient, and to make full use of them (currently) we'd need to cover something like half the planet with them, just to meet (all) of our power needs. It's a decent solution for power reduction, but as a replacement it's sorely lacking.

    As for the hand crank, you should know by now that Americans are far too lazy for that.
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    but then, even 5% of unlimited is still a lot.
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    Only if the planets population were reduced to a more SENSIBLE size (read: Less than 500 million). Honestly, the grand majority of our problems stem from global surging population. The fewer people we have, the more can be available per person. Many argue that technology can keep up with the population, but what would it do for us if our population was reduced? Each individual, in a population of 500 million worldwide, would live in absolute luxury.
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    If it uses the phrase "perpetual motion" you can be sure it's junk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nucleotideboy
    If it uses the phrase "perpetual motion" you can be sure it's junk.
    Only if it also mentions power generation. Perpetual motion is nothing special, for instance in a vacuum.
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    My understanding is that the energy created by the machine is greater than it's consumption, so it uses the battery power to initiate the movement, but provides more energy than the battery output, so it repowers the battery, and gives off whatever is left over (5 times the amount) in power.

    am i wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 60minutes
    am i wrong?
    Either you, or the laws of thermodynamics.
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    you are wrong, 60minutes
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    interesting comment from youtube; Yes possibleand works...working magnetic generator uses TWO batteries - one is to help disk with magnets to keep running and another to store energy and recharge the 1st battery. 100 % working scheme..no magic at all
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    Question: what do you do when the magnets become demagnetised? Which, invariably they will if the energy is coming from the magnetic force.

    So what it comes down to, is which is more expensive - bar magnets or petrol? I suspect petrol.
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    skeptics who say you cannot get more energy output that you put in: what is resonance? if you walk into a small room and sing a note at the resonant frequency of the room, you can see for yourself that the sound is amplified. louder means more energy! sure the surplus energy comes from somewhere, but resonant systems like the phonograph or the tesla coil simply exploit this phenomenon. just because you've studied established physics doesn't mean nothing else will ever be possible!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 60minutes
    skeptics who say you cannot get more energy output that you put in: what is resonance? if you walk into a small room and sing a note at the resonant frequency of the room, you can see for yourself that the sound is amplified. louder means more energy!
    Resonance is constructive interference. Stand in a different place and it will be quieter than expected. Total energy is the same, but energy is greater in different places.

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    sure the surplus energy comes from somewhere, but resonant systems like the phonograph or the tesla coil simply exploit this phenomenon. just because you've studied established physics doesn't mean nothing else will ever be possible!!
    No, but it gives you a fairly good idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drowsy turtle
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    am i wrong?
    Either you, or the laws of thermodynamics.
    Some of us listen and learn from our mentors....Edison, Franklin, Einstein, Tesla, Townsend Brown, the Wright Brothers, Henry Ford - Those who refused to go with the accepted "standards" and who helped re-write the textbooks. It will happen again - Ole' knowledgemonger will be left in the dust...THINKING outside the box (or books)
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    Quote Originally Posted by drowsy turtle
    You mean, it uses electromagnets[/b].

    These things always have the same fault...
    yep
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    Does anyone really believe the elite will allow this on the market?
    Imagine the loss of revenue to the oil companies and the loss of power over humanity
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    interesting stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by 60minutes
    Quote Originally Posted by drowsy turtle
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    am i wrong?
    Either you, or the laws of thermodynamics.
    Some of us listen and learn from our mentors....Edison, Franklin, Einstein, Tesla, Townsend Brown, the Wright Brothers, Henry Ford - Those who refused to go with the accepted "standards" and who helped re-write the textbooks. It will happen again - Ole' knowledgemonger will be left in the dust...THINKING outside the box (or books)
    In history, 99.9% of people who refused to go with the accepted "standards" were clowns and fools who wasted their life running after an impossible idea. What reason do you have of thinking you're in the 0.01? Do you have Tesla's level of understanding of electricity? Do you have an idea of how many people in history have claimed to have come up with a free energy device?

    It's simple: the current laws of physics just don't allow free energy machines. The "explanation" you gave us does not involve anything not covered by the known laws of physics (batteries, magnets, etc.); therefore if that's all there is to it, it just won't work.

    Or maybe there's an effect not covered in the known laws of physics; but that didn't appear anywhere in the explanation.

    In conclusion, whether the device works or not, your explanation counts as zero justification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 60minutes
    Does anyone really believe the elite will allow this on the market?
    If you had told me at the outset that you were a delusional conspiracy freak I could have placed you on Ignore much earlier.
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