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  1. #1 Electric Cars - An idea 
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    Hey,

    After reading an article in New Scientist on the inefficiency of batteries in electric cars I realised a solution to both the problems plaguing this technology. These problems are the short range of the car and the long time taken to charge the battery. To answer these issues I suggest replacement batteries at every petrol station, these would be charged at the station then when your battery is running low you swap the empty battery for a full one at the station. The station need only charge for the power as they are getting a fully functional battery in return.

    I realise this may not be the place for such a discussion but I just wanted to see if any one could pick a hole in my idea or could suggest a way of telling this to the people that could actually make a difference.

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    The only thing that would tick me off would be to get an old, crappy sub-standard battery put into my car. When my car is new, I go off with a shiny sparking new battery! Then I'm supposed to give it up at the next station for a 14 yr-old battery that's had the course?!?


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    That's a good idea!

    We do similar with tool bits & blades: before the bit becomes dull, it's replaced with freshly sharpened one, and taken off to be (laboriously) sharpened. The customer always has sharp bits this way, so may run a machine shop or whatever 24/7. Propane tank refills too.

    So long as the company providing charged batteries upholds good satisfaction guarantees, it's a very efficient system and everybody's happy. Customers would pay more or less for different grades of battery. Lots of room for competition here, unlike simply paying for electricity.

    Those who must have the very latest high-end batteries may buy two sets themselves and rig something at home... until the mainstream catches up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C_Sensei
    The only thing that would tick me off would be to get an old, crappy sub-standard battery put into my car. When my car is new, I go off with a shiny sparking new battery! Then I'm supposed to give it up at the next station for a 14 yr-old battery that's had the course?!?
    How often do you contemplate the quality of the petrol you get from a fuel station, compared to what was in it when you bought it?
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    only when things go wrong, like that time we got dirt in the petrol tank
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    For 60%-85%(gestimate) of drivers who commute to work that debate is a RED HERRING. We are being fooled and that includes(apparently) by that New Science-thing magazine that might as well be owned by a conglomerate that has its legacy stakes in oil.

    NiMH batteries powering the 100% electric Toyota Rav4 do allow the vast majority of people to commute to work and back on a less than a full charge and recharge overnight. That also means that even in winter, theres no problem, because you are Not using a full charge anyway. That battery technology is over a decades old, god knows how much better it would be if they had been able to improve on it every other year since the 90s, so the problem is not so much technological has bankrupt media would want us to believe but the problem is mostly POLITICAL and SYSTEMIC(Capitalism's current form) there's just too much money being made from the Legacy of selling of oil for fuel, oil changes, filters, wearing out of internal combustion moving parts to be replaced and that brake down. And part of that collosal fortune is being used to supress alternatives.


    How often do you contemplate the quality of the petrol you get from a fuel station, compared to what was in it when you bought it?
    LOL thats right, and whats the problem if you switch that old one for a (statistically speaking) new one the next time?

    Im not too hot on the battery changing scheme, imo people who do long drives beyond 100 miles on a regular basis should just get fuel efficient cars and plug-in hybrids, within a decade of actual competition without patent hoarding for the market of people that overwelmingly use their cars for less than 100miles commute you would get improvements in battery tech that would make longer ranges and shorter recharge that eventually would overtake the fuel tech(considering EV have a potential for less maintenance cost) and that unlike fuel you can produce electricity from your own rooftop with solar panels.
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    I contemplate it a lot dude - I go to Petro Canada, where my car not only gets the most mileage per gas type, but also better performance.

    Interestingly enough, it costs a bit more than the American Ultramar, where I don't get as good performance or mileage.

    I use engine oil that keeps the thermometer lower rather than higher. I figure less heat=less friction=longer engine life. Also more expensive.

    So, ya, I am quite concerned with avoiding having crap installed in my electric car.
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    I have an even better idea, how about we make every driver pull their vehicles with a harness 1 mile for every 100 miles they drive. I suspect you would see the end of the SUV and large truck as a single person commuter vehicle very quickly. Car pools would become welcome in lighter more efficient vehicles as well. More people to help pull that lighter van.

    The battery swap idea doesn't solve anything at all, if anything it would just make people infuriated with the providers. The stupid 17 year old high school drop out working behind the counter would screw up the charges of these old batteries on a routine basis, leaving people stranded on their way to work. This would lead to more traffic jams and more shootings on the road.

    We own a Prius now, and if we wanted to we could add more batteries to it which would allow for 100+ mpg fuel economy. The kits are available to convert them now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C_Sensei
    The only thing that would tick me off would be to get an old, crappy sub-standard battery put into my car. When my car is new, I go off with a shiny sparking new battery! Then I'm supposed to give it up at the next station for a 14 yr-old battery that's had the course?!?
    This is easily solved by a battery test - simples :-D

    You would only need to test athiests.
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    i would echo icewendigo sentiments.

    http://www.designnews.com/article/27...xt=Drag+racing

    Electric is the way to go!
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