April 8th, 2009, 07:19 AM
On a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being sheldon from the big bang theory) how would you rate the average nerdyness kicking around these boards?
I say 6 because everyone is always trying to better everyone else and come up with something clever, but at the same time we don't seem totally ripped from the mainstream.
Often a seemingly innocent thread and turns it into a philisophical debate though lol
Yeah I would say 6 in general except for all those sticklers hovering over religion and philosophy! The rest of us sorta know our stuff, and yet we're a little carefree, you know? Not ready to bust a nut all the time like some of the posters I know. :-D
I'd say about 6 too. We all know out stuff. Janus knows his physics, paralith knows her biology, marnix knows his geology etc etc. Everyone else put yourself where you like.
As for other people in general, I'd say they're not geeks or nerds. Just that they have interest in a variety of topics. I in particular have interest in a lot of subjects so am I an ultra geek? OMFG! LOlz!
how about trying out this test ? How geeky are you ?
i scored a not-very-geeky 37.5%
I got a 40% but then most of the questions were about computers and math related stuff.
30%.
true, it's only about one specific type of geekinessOriginally Posted by i_feel_tiredsleepy
32.25%. Very bias though. For instance, the only museum around me is the local recreation grounds where you can see all types of syringes from the ages due to the council not cleaning up. Or how old the pavement is, I used to enjoy the impossible game 'dodge the cracks', now children around here play 'dodge the pavement'.
I'm a 35%! I must admit, I had to search deeeeeep in my head for the difference between RAM and ROM.
Secret. One means random access memory. I don't know the other but I said I did know teehee.
Random acess Memory and Read Only Memory
Now you've clicked my memory. I learned that in college...
EDIT:
Hold on hold on, let me try that again...
Now you've cliked my memory.
Hehe. Get it? Terrible...
I know I can't be the only one here who feels like this, but does anyone else randomly fantasize about one day rising above all the jocks and fashions divas and becoming a multi-millionaire (or billionaire if you'd like) and then rubbing it in their poor, over-botoxed, over hyped, faces?
Or is this just another phase of the angsty teenager scene? :?
I prefer living the way I do and then waiting for some big shot to say he's got everything and after a 10 minute rant on why he's better than me for me to simply say:
Your momma.
And walk away. Sarcastic indifference. That's when I really mean it, in that situation and that situation and situations like that. Its brilliant...
It's an angsty teenager thing. I was there myself most of high school.
I'm not going to make substantial amounts of money for a long time in my field - but that doesn't matter. What matters is that I'm very happy with what I'm doing and I don't give a jot anymore about the jocks and fashionistas. Once you leave high school you'll find that what happened there becomes less and less important as time goes on.
I don't think I'm like Sheldon, but I would rank myself as pretty high up there geek-wise. Perhaps an 8 or 9. I'm nerdy in my own special way.
I don't think its materialistic paralith. I believe its fairness and equality. More over, injustice... teenagers see this very clearly. A lot of people (like you) grow up, find what they like and settle into it and stay there ignorant to the problems in the world and society.
I as an adult see injustice and unfairness and inequality in the starving mouths of millions of men women and children in many various countries... I see the same in millions of murdered Jews, the same in millions of men women and children going needlessly to war. Needlessly being victimised and controlled.
Perhaps paralith, the 'angsty teenager' label is more related to materialistic injustices which a teenager at that age will percieve as an injustice. In perhaps the same way I see it as the same but not materialistic, but rather moralastic and freedom injustices. In which case I am perhaps an 'angsty young adult'.
I hope that this never changes. I wish I could help every single one of them, and I will never give up until every single man woman and child is given equality and freedom, fed and clothed... Even if this takes many many years. I'll find a way to stop it. One person can make a difference, one person can save or destroy the world. I aim to confront those who destroy it and end their reign of terror.
Therefore, I hope my 'angst', or more over 'righetous indignation' carries on through my age and I hope that you tritai, keep that dubbed 'angst' which should become righteous indignation, and hopefully there will be another person in the world willing to end the injustices in the world.
Never let go to that sense of injustice, no matter your age and NEVER think you can do nothing about it. Those who do might as well be dead and defeated...
I don't think you can equate a sense of injustice to a desire to be rich... Especially when it involves revenge fantasies.
the reason why many adults are no longer angsty ? you don't tend to have a happy life (or a long one, for that matter) if you're not prepared to make at least some compromises
in the end you have to ask yourself : do i really want to be a martyr ?
You missed the point. Entirely.
I said that the injustice a teenager may see and an adult may see is the same injustice. But different analagies above that.
Angry is angry.
Sad is sad.
Happy is happy.
What we feel at different ages and how they change change. But the feelings themselves do not..
A child will see injustice as a friend getting more than the other, then get a desire to be rich. An adult will see an injustice to a friend being poorly treated, then get a desire to help them.
The selfishness is reversed to altruism because the adult learns about the world and understands their own injustices akin to their own.
In this statement you have tried to apply to my post, doesn't work because you are trying to apply it to both a child, a teenager and an adult at the same time and it doesn't work because we all know people change as they grow up. But the emotions do not...I don't think you can equate a sense of injustice to a desire to be rich... Especially when it involves revenge fantasies
Some adults carry this on and it is the truth for them, that is because they are what you and I would call as I'm sure you would agree: immature, uneducated and unitelligent and perhaps a little ignorant.I don't think you can equate a sense of injustice to a desire to be rich... Especially when it involves revenge fantasies
Do you understand now what I meant? Please try not to take any furthur meaning and try and attribute relativity into this.
If everyone were a marty marnix, this world would be saved. If only 10 were martyrs, this world would be saved. If everyone was a martyr there'd be no need for God or a saviour. We'd save it ourselves immediatley.
Materialistic differences do not equate injustices. Does the average American teenager really suffer from inequality of consideration. After all, real inequality is meaningless, as no one is truly equally skilled. What is important is that they receive equal consideration and equal opportunity. To equate a teenagers desire to be in a higher position as a sense of injustice is absurd.
For one, wanting more for yourself, although it could involve a sense of injustice, is usually more likely to be linked to greed. Wanting less for others for no other reason than they have more than you, also has very little with wanting equality.
Nonsense, I very much doubt that a sense of justice and altruism comes about as a desire to want more than others. Empathic feelings don't just magically spring into being as a result of desires. Empathy is both inborn and learned, certainly one learns not to do onto others what they don't want done on to themselves. However, this is not a direct product of them wanting more for themselves.
Well that's a nice bit of rhetoric that means nothing.
Or they could just be very selfish, and fully aware of what they are doing, but do it anyway.
There's no need for God now
I'm happy with my philosophy for the time being. I think yours is a bit behind mine, and a little disconnected with reality... but I'm happy at this stop soaking up some sun... and er...tasting some different types of icecream
Anyway... I'm going to put in brackets the relative view point you need to be looking at...
(Teenager of a certain type) To teenagers they do. Tritai being an example.
(To certain American teenagers)To an American teenager they do.Does the average American teenager really suffer from inequality of consideration.
(Humanistic relative viewpoint) You're looking towards contributions that humans make. I think that a child starving in Dafur is inequality and meaningful. If you don't what are you?After all, real inequality is meaningless, as no one is truly equally skilled.
(My point of relative view)That sounds fair to me.What is important is that they receive equal consideration and equal opportunity.
(Teenagers point of view) To a teenager who sees materialism and no greater understanding (being a childs/teenagers world) it isn't.To equate a teenagers desire to be in a higher position as a sense of injustice is absurd.
Perhaps, but that will not apply to 99% percent of all cases. And seeing as my post was trying not to see it in one point of view anyway, this is slightly redundant.For one, wanting more for yourself, although it could involve a sense of injustice, is usually more likely to be linked to greed.
(My point of view)Perhaps wanting more than others so that they can help them might apply. Perhaps my memes make me think that way, I don't know. Seeing as those who are being helped do not help themselves. Even if they perhaps do not need help, I see a lot of people do need help and those who exist with more than them anyway are going to exploit those without. Thats a historic fact, you can't refute that.Nonsense, I very much doubt that a sense of justice and altruism comes about as a desire to want more than others.
Never said they did.Empathic feelings don't just magically spring into being as a result of desires.
Nature/nurture amalgamation, that's a bit wild isn't it? 8)Empathy is both inborn and learned,
Take a look at history and say that again please....certainly one learns not to do onto others what they don't want done on to themselves.
(My point of view)Perhaps, but you can approach this whole discussion from a number of psychological methods and models. As you can that statement right there. Its too subjective so I'm not going to go furthur if you are going to present your side of the discussion if it contains angles more subjective and relative than those I have presented. Or if you deviate from the OP. Which you seem to be doing.However, this is not a direct product of them wanting more for themselves.
(My point of view)Perhaps in your eyes, but in mine its not rhetoric, its relative.Well that's a nice bit of rhetoric that means nothing.
What you are saying there is that seeing other point of views and trying to use them to understand others is rhetoric. I do not think that is the way to aid understanding.
If you understood that you'd understand your own and my point of view. Likewise I cannot abandon my relativity because I would be going backwards in my development. Something which I think is a step in the wrong direction.
I cannot say I understand your point of view. Which angle are you coming from? I wish to understand so please help me.
(My point of view)Yes they could, I agree. But also the same and opposite. Perhaps a number of angles of the same behaviour.Or they could just be very selfish, and fully aware of what they are doing, but do it anyway.
With you and me, no there isn't.There's no need for God now
Wow. I really am not sure how my statements lead you to think I am sitting in willful blissful ignorance of the world's problems. You seem to have missed the point as well. No one was talking about the great injustices of the world. We're talking about teenagers interacting with each other.
The fact that some guy or girl was more popular than you in a specific, isolated environment, for a handful of years out of your whole life, is completely meaningless in the face of the rest of your life and the rest of the world. To focus on such small petty things is indeed an angsty teenager thing, because that small world is your whole world for a few years and it takes a while to truly expand your perspective. I am just as guilty of that as anyone else and I admit it freely. But now that I'm older I am just appreciative of the fact that I am living a happy life when so many people in the world can't even accomplish that, and what small grievances I experienced in high school will not lessen my appreciation. Perhaps you were in fact less angsty than the rest of us for being more concerned with the world at large at an earlier age.
Next time, please consider more carefully what I was actually saying before you jump to conclusions about my heartlessness to the suffering of others.
I agree with you, Paralith. I guess it's only a phase. As my mother never fails to remind me, "You teenagers think you're all that, but someday you're going to realize that you're just one out of many, many exactly like you."
I don't know why I bother beating myself up over popularity and things when I know that it will all get better when I get older. Maybe because childishness only exists at this time period, and adults can't really have the same immature vindictiveness.
But you do let suffering happen to others. Just look at you! You keep a poor mouse in a little box and make it appear and pose every time you post
I would apologise for my essay but I have a lot of anger in me and if anything so much as hints at somebody not caring about the world, I'll run a light year a minute at it and over look things. At the same time I do not want to lose to my righteous indignation as it is motivation and without it life is meaningless. The feeling to right a wrong is all that I have. Well....
It is just a phase, but I understand it's not an enjoyable phase for many of us. It's one thing to know consciously that it's petty and it's another thing to force yourself to be happy with a situation when you aren't. Like I've said, I was in your situation, I remember what it's like, and I hated it. The consolation I can give you is that later in your life you stand just as much of a chance as being happy and contented as anyone else, no matter how popular they were in high school.I agree with you, Paralith. I guess it's only a phase. As my mother never fails to remind me, "You teenagers think you're all that, but someday you're going to realize that you're just one out of many, many exactly like you."
I don't know why I bother beating myself up over popularity and things when I know that it will all get better when I get older. Maybe because childishness only exists at this time period, and adults can't really have the same immature vindictiveness.
A lot of older peers have said the same to me, but I think its ignorance. But I suppose in this world you have to. Which is still not being true to yourself, in which case everybody else is doing the same. That means the world needs to change, and the only way it will is if people speak up about their thoughts and feelings instead of forcing yourself to be happy...It's one thing to know consciously that it's petty and it's another thing to force yourself to be happy with a situation when you aren't.
Take a look at Martin Luther King Jr, or Malcolm X. Or the womens movement, or any protest actually. People only know your pain if you speak up. Thats only when change occurs. Please reflect that.
sometimes you can care so much that your response becomes disproportionate - i'm sure the guys who flew the planes into the twin towers also cared a lot about their world, so much they were willing to die for it
most people when they grow a few years older recognise the disproportionality of that response in favour of caring for the people in your immediate environment
Motivation and anger are not the same thing. You may be motivated by your anger but if you let your anger control your every action you can end up running over people who actually agree with you simply because you didn't take the time to read a few sentences. I am glad you're posting here again, and I appreciate your good intentions for the world at large - but I think it would help you much more than it would hurt you to be a little more zen.I would apologise for my essay but I have a lot of anger in me and if anything so much as hints at somebody not caring about the world, I'll run a light year a minute at it and over look things. At the same time I do not want to lose to my righteous indignation as it is motivation and without it life is meaningless. The feeling to right a wrong is all that I have. Well....
Sigh. I'm not telling tritai to force herself to be happy. I couldn't, and I don't expect her to be some superwoman that could. I'm telling her that things will be better in the future, and knowing that will hopefully ease the her way through the years a little bit. And remember we're talking about high school popularity contests, not basic human rights being denied to large proportions of the population. I'm trying to keep things in perspective.
The future... Oh I can tell you about the future... I understand paralith, but i believe everything affects everything. I'm trying also to keep things in perspective of what I understand.
It was an inside job.i'm sure the guys who flew the planes into the twin towers also cared a lot about their world, so much they were willing to die for it
What with everybody always trying to give me moral advice and guidance anyway?
I personally don't like being told I'm heartless when there is no basis for the accusation.
NOBODY is being heartless, and NOBODY is trying to preach to anyone.
-glares at Bad Wolf-
Thank you Paralith for putting things in perspective for me. From now on, I will try to look at my classmates and peers differently. It's nice getting advice from someone who's been through it all.
"Forcing yourself to be happy" = tact, not masochism
Sometimes, a fake smile is all you need to produce the right image, and I intend to use the correct opportunities if such an incident ever pops up where tact is necessary.
Thank you all for your opinions on "my angsty teenager side which will pop up every now and then, much to your dismay"
Ignorance must be bliss. I can see why wolves get hungry :P. Maybe I can't understand because I'm not female?
Hey, what you got against females, buddy? Females were put on this earth to use their feminism to fix anything you MALES bungle up. So there!
:P
"Self-knowledge is no guarantee of happiness, but it is on the side of happiness and can supply the courage to fight for it."
- Simone de Beauvoir
Yes, another brilliant French woman."Self-knowledge is no guarantee of happiness, but it is on the side of happiness and can supply the courage to fight for it."
- Simone de Beauvoir
"Remember, Ginger Rogers did everything Fred Astaire did, but she did it backwards and in high heels." - Faith Whittlesey
"You don't have to be anti-man to be pro-woman." - Jane G. Lewis
“God made woman beautiful and foolish; beautiful, that man might love her; and foolish, that she might love him” - Anonymous
The last one is my favorite, but I guess the middle works too. :wink:
CONGRATULATIONS EVERYONE!
YOU HAVE PROVED MY OPENING POST TO BE TRUE! YOU ARE ALL DEBATING EACH OTHER OVER POINTLESS TOPICS JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE SO INCLINED!
Hmm.
You're actually interested in where you fit in a relative scale or geekiness/nerdiness enough to start a topic where you can define the scale. Am I right?CONGRATULATIONS EVERYONE!
YOU HAVE PROVED MY OPENING POST TO BE TRUE! YOU ARE ALL DEBATING EACH OTHER OVER POINTLESS TOPICS JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE SO INCLINED!
Hehe, you lose equally.
Care to rethink that phrase, PAL?POINTLESS TOPICS
i prefer pointless topics - pointed topics are unsafe, someone might get hurt
stop moaning u geeks
I scored 52.5% geeky... I have my laptop sitting by my bed at all times! Anyways... I would say the average geekyness of the forum users would be 2... dragged down majorly by the William McCormack dude... 5-7 otherwise.
Originally Posted by Scifor Refugee
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