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    Quote Originally Posted by (Q)
    Priests and theologians are the worst of the bunch. They propagate the cult and it's tenets and spread these diseases throughout mankind. I have yet to meet one of these individuals who wasn't completely deluded. It's little wonder they take on these roles as no sane person would ever hire them.
    thats the EXACT reason why i dont like religion..... or priests or people like that..... i feel like christianity is more of a cult and anythng else...... because when i went to 'Youth Group' with my now ex girlfriend, i walked in with my phone when i was getting a text message and was asked to thank 'jesus' and 'god' for my phone and my ipod..... and i was like riiiiiiiiiiight..... *steps over here*

    i was like
    it generally just becomes annoying....

    i have found a priest who was capable of seperating 'faith' from 'reality', he cared more about the school's cricket team than about doing a chapel service

    this also depends on your definition of 'Sane' lol
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    his definition of 'sane' is 'atheist'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcane_Mathematician
    his definition of 'sane' is 'atheist'
    then i like his definition of 'Sane'

    then doesnt that mean that Atheists are "Realists"?
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    then you are biased
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    isn't everyone ?
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    Some are more than others.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcusclayman
    then you are biased
    how so? i am just agreeing with another person who shares the same or lack there of for a 'belief in "gods" '

    am i am just sharing my views in agreement...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaceman34
    Quote Originally Posted by Arcane_Mathematician
    his definition of 'sane' is 'atheist'
    then i like his definition of 'Sane'

    then doesnt that mean that Atheists are "Realists"?
    By what you wrote dearest Spaceman, you seem to be agreeing with (Q) that to be an atheist is to be a sane human being, whereas to be religious, or someone who does not agree with your belief in the existence of higher powers or supernatural reality are not sane. In other words, people who have different religious beliefs are insane, lunatics, psychotics, deranged, or any other word that can be used to describe someone as mentally "off".

    Marcus is saying that because you agree with the belief that atheists are sane, thereby implying the religious are not, you are biased. Because you believe, by your agreement that Atheists are sane, that the religious are lunatics, then you are merely being prejudiced against anyone who does not share your religious views, because being biased means you are prejudiced.

    Of course I have probably completely mistaken both you and Marcus's posts and apologize profusely in advance for my ignorance.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KomradRed
    Quote Originally Posted by Spaceman34
    Quote Originally Posted by Arcane_Mathematician
    his definition of 'sane' is 'atheist'
    then i like his definition of 'Sane'

    then doesnt that mean that Atheists are "Realists"?
    By what you wrote dearest Spaceman, you seem to be agreeing with (Q) that to be an atheist is to be a sane human being, whereas to be religious, or someone who does not agree with your belief in the existence of higher powers or supernatural reality are not sane. In other words, people who have different religious beliefs are insane, lunatics, psychotics, deranged, or any other word that can be used to describe someone as mentally "off".

    Marcus is saying that because you agree with the belief that atheists are sane, thereby implying the religious are not, you are biased. Because you believe, by your agreement that Atheists are sane, that the religious are lunatics, then you are merely being prejudiced against anyone who does not share your religious views, because being biased means you are prejudiced.

    Of course I have probably completely mistaken both you and Marcus's posts and apologize profusely in advance for my ignorance.

    nah man dont worry... but i have never once said that religious people are insane or crazy or anything.... i just hate the fact that with our NEW school chaplain hes also our school counseller and when we have a problem pretty much all our counseller says is, and i QUOTE "go pray to god and he will forgive your sins and everything will be alright"

    and im like..... "HELLO?!?! i need REAL HELP!! not sitting around praying for everything to be okay!!"
    with our OLD chaplain he would just be like, and yes another Direct Quote "hey whats wrong? can i help in anyway?"

    i just dont like it when priests and/or chaplain cant seperate their religion from the real world... its just so annoying...
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    I didn't really mean what komrad said (although I agree with his wrong interpretation of it)

    I was merely being sarcastic, you said "I like" which is the calling card of being biased. If you like something you are biased towards it. I was not implying that anyone is more or less biased than anyone else, just that you were admitting your own biased, without supporting your reasons.

    On the topic of whether or not someone is biased, my biased opinion is that we are all equally biased, some exceptionally biased individuals go so far as to support their opinions with seamingly rational discourse. Others don't, and here we are. You can be rationaly biased, or have a biased rationality, which is not a matter of another's opinions, but a matter of your own efforts to learn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KomradRed

    By what you wrote dearest Spaceman, you seem to be agreeing with (Q) that to be an atheist is to be a sane human being
    Don't you mean agreeing with Arcane? He's the one who made the claim.
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    I didn't even say that, I mentioned that a necessary qualifier of sanity is atheism (at least, this is what I perceive (Q) to think on the subject), not the other way around.
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    to quote the marx brothers : "there ain't no sanity clause"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcane_Mathematician
    I didn't even say that
    Yes, you did. Don't lie about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by (Q)
    Quote Originally Posted by Arcane_Mathematician
    I didn't even say that
    Yes, you did. Don't lie about it.
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    his definition of 'sane' is 'atheist'
    No I didn't. I said something implicitly different, though similar. To be sane is to atheist, not the other way around, by how I view your warped thinking. An atheist may very well be insane, but a theist is necessarily insane. That's what I see when I read your posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcane_Mathematician
    No I didn't. I said something implicitly different, though similar. To be sane is to atheist, not the other way around, by how I view your warped thinking. An atheist may very well be insane, but a theist is necessarily insane. That's what I see when I read your posts.
    You really should stop lying about it. You said it right here:

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    his definition of 'sane' is 'atheist'
    So, stop all the bs and take your lumps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by (Q)
    Priests and theologians are the worst of the bunch. They propagate the cult and it's tenets and spread these diseases throughout mankind. I have yet to meet one of these individuals who wasn't completely deluded. It's little wonder they take on these roles as no sane person would ever hire them.
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    Don't you mean agreeing with Arcane? He's the one who made the claim.
    Q, in the first quote you clearly state that priests and theologians are deluded and are obviously in the fields that they are in since no sane person would hire them. That implies, quite strongly, based on this post in quote #1 that you believe only people who do not believe or follow what priests or theologians say, in other words, atheists, to be sane. Arcane only pointed out, in response to spaceman's question as to what your definition of sane is, that you believe atheist and sane to be synonymous. In short, Arcane was only pointing out what you had already said, to make things clearer to Spaceman.
     

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    (Q), I copped to that, and it's DIFFERENT than what spaceman interpreted to mean, so quit attacking me. I'm not lying and I'm not spouting BS. Spaceman interpreted what I said as "all atheists are sane" and I said "all sane people are atheists". those are different statements.
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    So, why don't the both of you just chill and have a martini?
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