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    Has anyone seen this? If so what did you think of it?


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    Part one seemed consistent after some research, even though I had to have my doubts after watching part two which was just plain silly.

    Part three was something about banks taking over the US or something if I recall correctly. Fractional-reserve banking is a keyword I think. I have my doubts about this part though.


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    1. The portion about the history of Christianity is historically undeniable.

    2. If you are interested in the conspiracy, watch " Terrorstorm, " and " Endgame. " They are both free on the internet. Also look at:
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    infowards.net

    3. After researching it for about 3 years, the portion on the WTC is also quite undeniable.
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    I'm sorry, I snickered through most of it. Just a shamelessly pandering mashup of conspiracies. It could have benefited from eerie music and flashlight beams through fog. The gratuitous gore and testosterone strumming war footage is gonna be so dated... I hope.

    Maybe a cult classic when they're older and wiser.
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    1. You can't go solely off the questionably-made movie, the same way it would be stupid to base any conclusion on a single point of data. It brings up issues that, which further research, are not just "conspiracies."

    2. Stop following me around, Pong.

    3. No, it's okay, I like it.
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    1. The topic is the movie, not the debatable truth of its many claims. If you like digression... pick one.

    2. Just making it easy for you.

    3. I know.
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    I've watched both of those films (Zeitgeist and Zeitgeist: Addendum) and I've found them quite enlightening. Not to take all for truth and all for false, the concept behind the movie shows that the government isn't working for the masses but mostly for the few and rich.

    For the first part about religion, I as an atheist found it as a good astrological explanation for a story written 2000 years ago. Al thought lots of religious people have banded and the entire is being refuted because of its ''harsh'' attack on religious beliefs (example www.zeitgeistchallenge.com).

    For it's second part, about the WTC, well I remember seeing on the news the building collapsing on its self which looked kind of weird and now that the movie showed the WTC 7 collapsing, and you can find records on that, it doesn't make much sense anymore.

    The last part is where it gets interesting and ties in with the second movie. The Fractional-reserve banking is the beast of it all. It truly explains how the rich get richer and the population of classified as poor increases as the gap between poor and rich increases. If you haven't watched it, just watch Addendum. We are slave to a system designed to create profit for few people.

    As for conspiracy, well depends what you are looking at. The fractional-reserve banking is true, its the system we currently use. meaning that the money in circulation is never enough to pay the debts and interests therefore the system always creates more debts.

    The idea behind the movie is that we require a new system, a new way to advance forward as a species. Today's political and economic systems are restraining us from advancing further. Which is what the message is about, we require change.This change will require to think outside the box, to see without our eyes clouded by cultural influences.
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    Even if you just assume that everything the movie states is unquestionably valid, it does an epically heinous job of showing any purpose or benefit for all of it. Nothing beneficial has come out of either war, for America or anyone else, Haliburton and the other companies that US government officials are linked to are all failing, and oil has dramatically increased in price (until recently for unrelated reasons). This makes the whole argument unreliable.
    Does anyone know the government's supposed reason for causing 9/11 ?
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    September 11th 2001 came two days after the assassination of Ahmad Shah Massoud, leader of the Northern Alliance, by al-Qaeda. That person was the last popular impediment to al-Qaeda in Afghanistan. Then 9/11 about the time it takes to receive a call and arrange airbus flights. I don't think that's coincidence.

    Why not same time? Because gaining access to "The Lion of Panjshir" was uncertain. The assassins had a video camera rigged with explosives, they posed as journalists. And they waited over a week at his compound before an interview was granted.

    That assassination set a lot of things in motion. The covert world is like that. Like when a game of chess collapses into tit-for-tat slaughter.

    Suspecting 9/11 orchestrated by Americans, for Americans, is self-absorbed and shallow.
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    Ive been reading these forums quite a bit while at work and such, and ive noticed Pong has alot to say on many different subjects and most of the time you do actually seem pretty intelligent..
    But if you fail to see the connection between all of the links given in many documentaries about the whole 9/11 incident, then you my friend are everything but intelligent and definatly also are the one that is self absorbed and shallow.
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    What an incredibly eloquent ad hominem fallacy.

    No reply, pong?
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    One of the things that captured me were the former IRS workers, one of them said that they hadn't paid their tax's since 1999. Wouldn't that mean that the IRS would go to that former IRS worker's property and confiscate household items to replace the money not paid by the former IRS worker?
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    9/11 was not solidly caused by the US governent but by the private banking families who control about half of the world's money supply, therefore controling world governements. (I may be wrong) It DOES NOT matter if a king has a scepter, throne and crown, who ever controls money is the REAL KING, and for our world it is the Rothchilds. How are the Roths kings? ALL MONEY comes form the Federal Reserve Bank (This bank is privately owned by the Roths and other rich families) which loans the government as much money as it says it needs but with interest, now this interest is payed through tax dollars from the people. So as Washington needs more and more money the higher their debt goes. Professional analists estimate the Rothschilds money at (HEAR ME) 500 TRILLION an estimated HALF of the world's money, so what we consider as "filthy rich" are DUST compared to them. As in proven facts this family have enginnered wars for about 200 years, world war 1 and 2 were caused by them in order to make massive profits from it. 9/11 was also orchistrated for the same purpose and even bigger is to create a 1 world government where ALL NATIONS submit to 1 law, the calculated effect that will result by such a horrible attack on modern society. Here are some vids on this 1 world law and the VERY DISTURBING plan to implant chips to humans which can definitely go sour, but yet again this could be wrong even if the pieces so perfectly fir together.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv5cqh26CC0 Gordon Brown (he said it again this year at the g20 summit)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bKwH...eature=related henry kissinger

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Z1e...eature=related bush senior

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tasAu_gkmDQ Obama

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baET_ObsMRM Hillary clinton (partial vid)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ6ux...eature=related Tony Blair (in support for 1 law?,sounds like it)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T74VA3xU0EA bush on North american union

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJbhFSAGd1c Obma on North American union

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wCdU...eature=related NAU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srkL7...eature=related 1 world bill

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hiPrsc9g98 Amero dollar for NAU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOhBmOD71B4 NAFTA superhighway to connect canada, US, n mexico

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxzs46Nxohk dangers of NAU (LONG)


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA-eNaQfSAk microchips NO NO NO!!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN22jkDSBuk the grim dangers of ignorance and arrogance, "when u get born u get a chip" 4:12 some of us are lost....

    and for this matter a further explanation: (derived from a different forum where I tried to reason with people) No paranois involved in analization of facts NONE, PURELY BASED on current events RIGHT NOW, I sound worried? well any human could express worry if they understand the possibilities

    U know that getting rid of physical currency can be achieved by that chip implanted in you, all they need to do is scan your hand with the chip in it and then it takes the money electronically from your elctronic account, and without this chip u cannot buy, sell , or trade, work anything basically u do not exist. And with this in place the world can be sevured in amny ways, balck market will dissapear, drug trafficing with also go that way etc. (imagination required). This is 1 of the heaviest reasons they wanna push for this chip, but i do not agree. This chip has the capability of recording all of a person's thoughts throughout their life (it can read thought impulses it is THAT advanced) it can see, hear feel, smell, EVERYTHING that that person is!!!! (So it can see your cpu screen just like how your eyes see it!!! and so with your other senses NO!!!!) they plan to uplink EVERY chip on EVERY human in the PLANET to sattelites and supercomputers that can RECORD your whole LIFE, if that is scary well hear this, who ever is in control of the supercomputers and satellites can send messages to the chip in your body to make u do ANYTHING they type in. The chip is atached to your nerves where elcetrical impulses travel throughout in order for 1 to even be able to move because thier brain say so, so with this chip in there that can give commands by sending elcetical messages straight to the brain, there then ther we go!!!! your free will is gone! the POTENTIAL of COMPLETE CONTROL and ZERO PRIVACY can be an ending result. They can also tell your chip to shut u down and therfore u can loose conciousness and even make your subconcious mind to stop functioning therfore killing you. Will I have this chip? NO!!!! even if they crusade that this chip is intended for the safety and well being of humanity still the answer is NO!!! because with all major power comes corruption and that CHANCE average people must NOT TAKE with these chips. If it does not go the bad way then cool, ok then what if is does?? (and remember with more power the more the corruption what moer for this) then what? now what? who we goona run to? EXACTLY. It will the the PERFECT tool of control, " we see 300 civilians on the move for protest of cyber chips implanted in their bodeis in San Diego" "your orders?" "houston shut them down" n every one drops. (that is what can happen) they are even proposing a starting year where from then on EVERY baby born in the PLANET will have the chip implanted in them in hospitals by law NO!!!!! Even if they say they will monitor everything using what the chip can do such as seeing what your eyeballs see I would say that that is beyond liberty, privacy , and morals. And the media is buying this BULL!!! people are actually buying this BULL!!! so called "people wanna be protected speech" but little do they realize with the measures that "the powers that be" are implemeting to protect them are actually tools to take away their birth right wich is to exercise the right to live independently and free. And 1 might ask "how can they do this? the whole world will not agree 100%, people of different nations will disagree with this propositon" well then let me tell you that BY FACT (BY ACTUAL REAL PRESENT TIME FACTS THAT ARE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW) our highest leaders in the world are pressing VERY STRONG efforts to build a 1 world goverment where the earth submits to 1 law, the earth's currency and economy is ran by 1 global bank, laws in Texas are laws in Africa, when this is done since every 1 is in 1 law they will submit to the chips. NO NATION OR PEOPLE CAN ARGUE PERIOD!!! the UN will be made as the ultimate world state police. Have u heard of the Lisbon treaty in Europe? it is a superstate NO MATTER WHAT EU leadesrs might say, the USA, MEXICO, AND CANADA are bieng (listen) MERGED to 1 super state which will be called "north american union" that wil end american soverighty, those really long freeways in texas they are trying to construct? a step to connecting all 3 continents believe it or not. Asia will be merged to and africa as well, then when we have superstates they will ALL be merged and it is 1 WORLD LAW. Some might say "i would not worry it ain't gonna happen in my lifetime" BULL!!!!!!! it is being processed RIGHT NOW as I type this, "it will not afect me so i should not worry or care" BULL!!!! it affects EVERY HUMAN ON EARTH!!! "this is made up" BULL!!! watch CNN and other news channels, "why should i worry let them handle it" BULL!!! BULL!!! BULLL!!! the inability for an individual to act because of the lack of knowledge and wisodm WILL put you in vein. This ignorance is the MIGHTIEST weapon of this forecomming onslaught against your birth rights , people on top DO NOT want the people to know and understand because they know we will fight and wiln because the TRUE power is in the masses and many people are fighting this. "it is to make them feel better they know someting" BULL!! it is to have the proper knowledge in order to know your TRUE RIGHTS!!! "plantea is just dillusional crazy he just made this up" then prove yourself 100% correct that i just made it up n do your own research and see what u can find, "oh noo here we go again i dun wanna hear it" it is better for u to hear it that to not hear aything n the time comes when it is OVER. Is it this serious?? YES!!! THE FATE OF THE WORLD IS THREATENED LIKE NEVER BEFORE!!!! It is the SHOWDOWN of the ages that will FOREVER change man in all his ways.
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    Further more the PROMISE of a 1 world human family with a 1 world new order can be noted as a cover up with the real agenda more to dominate and command not to unify and respect. When this plan is portrayed it is explained in such sweetness "the chance of uniting the whole world in 1 banner" yes but not in a way where national indentity and national sovereighnty is taken away. Exactly what the NAU will do to all 3 countries of North America, take away national sovereighnty, which people of destinct nations will not accept because of the importance to them of their "national pride". When the masses stand up to this, then there could be a major problem, a worldwide uprising in protest of the "1law" scarry possibilities not to be taken lightly by any one. It is NOT A JOKE
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    This thread does'nt belong in this section anymore. I am moving it to General Discussion.

    Edit: or I will attempt to. :?
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    This is somewhat irrelevant to the topic but it could be useful to readers.



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