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    This article on the European glaciers recent melting is interesting. But the most telling thing to me is the pair of photographs at the bottom of the post. It took me a minute or two to work out where the ice line of the glacier was 137 years ago on the further side.

    Weather Extremes : Unprecedented snow melt and heat in the European Alps | Weather Underground

    The place where the photo was taken is obviously the same, but the angle of the shot is slightly different (look at the left edge on both). Once that's sorted it's a little bit easier to work out what's happened in the central area of the shot.


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    Yes it's pretty compelling. Elsewhere in Europe they are seeing climate change as well. Take this article, for example, that looks at observed and modeled future effects of olive growing on the Island of Sardinia. I picked Sardian, because I served a few months there during the winter and found it remarkable the abrupt transitions from cool and moist Northerly breezed to parched warm Sahara desert breezes at least once a week. As, Hadley cells expand, places near transition zones, such as Sardinia, Southern Italy and Greece will become increasingly warm and arid.
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    This is why they are making better gas efficient vehicles before its to late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sciencekid101 View Post
    This is why they are making better gas efficient vehicles before its to late.
    I'm afraid it is probably already too late. Developing countries like China and India are not going to slow down their development for environmental reasons.
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    Yes it is probably to late for developing countries
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    Is there a collective unconscious leading us (as a species) down this path to climate domination?
    From clothing to houses to ... are we predestined to expand our control of our(the) environment to encompass the very atmosphere?
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    Then, Do we have personal contemporary control or is the evolutionary "will of the species" beyond our personal intervention?
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    Yet more cheery news. Zeeburg Nieuws / Climate Change / Mountain glaciers are melting

    Yes it is probably to late for developing countries
    I don't believe that. All we need is the imagination to see that desperately poor regions in India or in Africa don't need to develop the way the already industrialised world did. People with no access to a power grid will be far better off with localised power generation from solar and small wind turbines rather than waiting - for generations - for centralised power to eventually be extended to their homes and businesses. Far better for home by home, village by village, cooperative by cooperative to expand economic development from the ground up rather than by centralised action - or lack of it.
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