Thread: Proposals to stop the oil leak in the mexican gulf

1. Make a thin hole down to the oil, inflate there a very large plastic ball, fill it with a hard, strong material. When it has dried, place it on the right place with a wee bit of explosives (or a pulling magnet at the right place)

2. (more scifi-like proposal) drill a deeper hole and release lava in the oil//at the top of the hole.

Originally Posted by LeavingQuietly

1. Make a thin hole down to the oil, inflate there a very large plastic ball, fill it with a hard, strong material. When it has dried, place it on the right place with a wee bit of explosives (or a pulling magnet at the right place)

2. (more scifi-like proposal) drill a deeper hole and release lava in the oil//at the top of the hole.

Please explain the material that you would use that would do this in the 1000+ PSI differential pressure.

Please note the difference between differential and absolute.

wiki: Pressure Measurement

Originally Posted by LeavingQuietly

1. Make a thin hole down to the oil, inflate there a very large plastic ball, fill it with a hard, strong material. When it has dried, place it on the right place with a wee bit of explosives (or a pulling magnet at the right place)

I don't understand what you mean in this proposal. Especially the explosive or magnet part.

kevlar?

One of those modern plastics?

Highly magnetic junk that forms a perfect sphere?

I've got an idea, add substance to the oil and ocean releasing electromagnetic preasure alternatively add induction to the oil hole.

Cause the free electrons in the oil to be attracted to the surface and cause induction in the hole.

Can that be done?

Sink a low-yield nuclear device down into the well. Detonate. Let nuclear fusion turn the surrounding rock into a glassy cap. Start two decades of clean up on the surface.

Originally Posted by SkinWalker

Sink a low-yield nuclear device down into the well. Detonate. Let nuclear fusion turn the surrounding rock into a glassy cap. Start two decades of clean up on the surface.

Thanks, ideas in the thread +1, Much appreciated.

They can't bomb every leaking oil well though -That's my oppinion.

New idea: Use light that go straight through matter to go through the oil and cause induction.

Most scientists recognise that the EM-waves have a temporal charge and magnetic field. This can cause induction.

Originally Posted by LeavingQuietly

They can't bomb every leaking oil well though -That's my oppinion.

New idea: Use light that go straight through matter to go through the oil and cause induction.

Most scientists recognise that the EM-waves have a temporal charge and magnetic field. This can cause induction.

This isn't your average leaking oil well. A nuke is the most economical and predictably viable solution. The reasons for its lack of further consideration (or public consideration) has to do with politics and the negative public perception -the stigma- associated with "nuclear device."

Light that can go through matter is a laser. There's a lot of matter to penetrate. More than is feasible for a laser. Such a beam would require an energy source that doesn't exist for our use.

It also appears that you haven't the foggiest idea what you're talking about. For instance, what does "temporal charge" mean in the context you intended? And, just because there are magnetic fields, doesn't imply any useful induction is occurring. Think MRI at the doctor's office. This is one of the strongest magnetic fields on the planet, yet completely safe for the human body. What sorts of "induction" are occurring and why isn't there an energy transfer that is on the order of stopping a major petroleum leak at the clinic?

Originally Posted by SkinWalker

Originally Posted by LeavingQuietly

They can't bomb every leaking oil well though -That's my oppinion.

New idea: Use light that go straight through matter to go through the oil and cause induction.

Most scientists recognise that the EM-waves have a temporal charge and magnetic field. This can cause induction.

This isn't your average leaking oil well. A nuke is the most economical and predictably viable solution. The reasons for its lack of further consideration (or public consideration) has to do with politics and the negative public perception -the stigma- associated with "nuclear device."

Light that can go through matter is a laser. There's a lot of matter to penetrate. More than is feasible for a laser. Such a beam would require an energy source that doesn't exist for our use.

It also appears that you haven't the foggiest idea what you're talking about.

There are light forms that go right through matter with or without loads of energy. We are not talking visible light here, & use civilised language, else I'll go to the monkey tribal book and start reading loud.

[quote="LeavingQuietly"][quote="SkinWalker"]

Originally Posted by LeavingQuietly

They can't bomb every leaking oil well though -That's my oppinion.

New idea: Use light that go straight through matter to go through the oil and cause induction.

What frequency did you have in mind? While there might be some frequencies that could work in clear sea water, I doubt anything would penetrate very far in the turbid waters off the Mississippi river even without the oil gusher.

[quote="Lynx_Fox"][quote="LeavingQuietly"]

Originally Posted by SkinWalker

Originally Posted by LeavingQuietly

They can't bomb every leaking oil well though -That's my oppinion.

New idea: Use light that go straight through matter to go through the oil and cause induction.

What frequency did you have in mind? While there might be some frequencies that could work in clear sea water, I doubt anything would penetrate very far in the turbid waters off the Mississippi river even without the oil gusher.

I don't know for sure, but I've heard of light just going straight through big masses without leaving a trace, I suppose that was the frequency of light I had in mind.

[quote="Lynx_Fox"][quote="LeavingQuietly"]

Originally Posted by SkinWalker

Originally Posted by LeavingQuietly

They can't bomb every leaking oil well though -That's my oppinion.

New idea: Use light that go straight through matter to go through the oil and cause induction.

What frequency did you have in mind? While there might be some frequencies that could work in clear sea water, I doubt anything would penetrate very far in the turbid waters off the Mississippi river even without the oil gusher.

New Idea: Make another oil hole that only release gas by a filter (and then ignite gas else we get a heat chock and die)

That is my idea, more ideas are allowed in this topic, go ahead and publish them here, is it a good idea?

The idea is: Solve Oil Leak drill hole release gas via filter & ignite

Originally Posted by LeavingQuietly

That is my idea, more ideas are allowed in this topic, go ahead and publish them here, is it a good idea?

The idea is: Solve Oil Leak drill hole release gas via filter & ignite

The problems boil down to the pressures they are working with underwater. They are already drilling relief wells. The gas is why they dad the problem to begin with.

Here is one thing they deal with at those pressures:

wiki: Methane clathrate

Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

Originally Posted by LeavingQuietly

That is my idea, more ideas are allowed in this topic, go ahead and publish them here, is it a good idea?

The idea is: Solve Oil Leak drill hole release gas via filter & ignite

The problems boil down to the pressures they are working with underwater. They are already drilling relief wells. The gas is why they dad the problem to begin with.

Here is one thing they deal with at those pressures:

wiki: Methane clathrate

So the gas is liquid down there? Can one filter of the gas-liquid then?

I have two questions about the Nukes option. When I first heard this suggestion I thought it was a joke.

1. Is it possible to keep such an explosion under control so that it doesn't wreak havoc in the Gulf area causing serious damage?

2. Where do you get the device? I doubt BP has one lying around so who provides it? Also, who pays for it?

Originally Posted by LeavingQuietly

So the gas is liquid down there? Can one filter of the gas-liquid then?

Unlikely. Be an expensive prototype machine do to at that depth. Take time to design and build if if they don't have any on the drawing broads. Even if was already made, it's all just untested theory.

Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

Originally Posted by LeavingQuietly

So the gas is liquid down there? Can one filter of the gas-liquid then?

Unlikely. Be an expensive prototype machine do to at that depth. Take time to design and build if if they don't have any on the drawing broads. Even if was already made, it's all just untested theory.

And they can't direct the oil into some empty earthpocket somewhere?

What's gonna happen now, then?

Originally Posted by LeavingQuietly

Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

Originally Posted by LeavingQuietly

So the gas is liquid down there? Can one filter of the gas-liquid then?

Unlikely. Be an expensive prototype machine do to at that depth. Take time to design and build if if they don't have any on the drawing broads. Even if was already made, it's all just untested theory.

And they can't direct the oil into some empty earthpocket somewhere?

What's gonna happen now, then?

The best solutions we have (in my opinion) are being done. they are capturing what they can with in essence, an inverted funnel. they are in the process of drilling relief wells. If this actually works? I don't know. I suspect it wont. I heard an interesting rumor through the grapevine that the oil they tapped is actually deeper than they say, which means even more pressure differential. This one could be an impossible one to stop. On top of that, the rumor included that this could be the largest reserve ever found. it could flow for the rest of our lives, if true. i hope it's not true.

Originally Posted by bradford28

I have two questions about the Nukes option. When I first heard this suggestion I thought it was a joke.

1. Is it possible to keep such an explosion under control so that it doesn't wreak havoc in the Gulf area causing serious damage?

2. Where do you get the device? I doubt BP has one lying around so who provides it? Also, who pays for it?

Yes, the science of explosive devices is actually a pretty well known science. I just wonder how they could build a custom nuke to operate in those pressures. Would the whole thing need to be jell packed to eliminate all pockets of gas to prevent crushing?

Obtaining the device...

I'm sure we, the USA, has enough that we could spare one.

Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

Obtaining the device...

I'm sure we, the USA, has enough that we could spare one.

It isn't really the question of that... It's the question of the size the nuke too dirty too far radius and other stuff being in the vincinity.

(Or. Atleast that's a personal oppinion.)

[quote="LeavingQuietly"]

Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

Originally Posted by bradford28

Obtaining the device...

I'm sure we, the USA, has enough that we could spare one.

It isn't really the question of that... It's the question of the size the nuke too dirty too far radius and other stuff being in the vincinity.

(Or. Atleast that's a personal oppinion.)

It would be placed in a nearby new hole, deep enough not to rupture the sea floor. the likelihood of problems would be rather limited.

[quote="Wild Cobra"]

Originally Posted by LeavingQuietly

Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

Originally Posted by bradford28

Obtaining the device...

I'm sure we, the USA, has enough that we could spare one.

It isn't really the question of that... It's the question of the size the nuke too dirty too far radius and other stuff being in the vincinity.

(Or. Atleast that's a personal oppinion.)

It would be placed in a nearby new hole, deep enough not to rupture the sea floor. the likelihood of problems would be rather limited.

Wouldn't the oil become radioactive?