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    scanning brain waves of any living beings and translating in to words? Our brains can do it so why cant our devices? also do all brains have diffrent brain wave patterns or are they all the same?


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    Yeah, our brain wave pattern are the same. I can even sync my brain wave pattern with your brain wave pattern by carefully telling a good story. Here's the proof: Study: The Brains of Storytellers And Their Listeners Actually Sync Up | 80beats | Discover Magazine


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    Quote Originally Posted by msafwan View Post
    Yeah, our brain wave pattern are the same. I can even sync my brain wave pattern with your brain wave pattern by carefully telling a good story. Here's the proof: Study: The Brains of Storytellers And Their Listeners Actually Sync Up | 80beats | Discover Magazine
    but are brain waves of two diffrent species the same?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black hole geek View Post
    Our brains can do it so why cant our devices?
    Simply put, our devices are unable to perform universal translation because we have not yet developed software and computer architecture to process data the same way that our brains do. Even if we were able to develop algorithms for a universal translator based on the ones in our brains, there is a good chance that we would lack sufficient computing power to execute such a program. This discussion brings this TED Talk to mind. It has nothing to do with universal translation, but it is quite interesting and clarifies some things about brain data flow and processing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black hole geek View Post
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    Yeah, our brain wave pattern are the same. I can even sync my brain wave pattern with your brain wave pattern by carefully telling a good story. Here's the proof: Study: The Brains of Storytellers And Their Listeners Actually Sync Up | 80beats | Discover Magazine
    but are brain waves of two diffrent species the same?
    I think it won't be the same because different species has different brain structure. They did have the same component (like hippocampus, visual cortex, ect) but they are in different sizes & shape. -In other word: I have no idea...
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    The Babel fish is small, yellow and leech-like, and probably the oddest thing in the Universe. It feeds on brainwave energy recieved not from its own carrier but from those around it, It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. the practical upshot of this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear you can instantly understand anything said to you in any language.

    Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mind-bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see as a final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God.

    The argument goes like this : "I refuse to prove that I exist", says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."

    "But", says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn't it? it could not have evolved by chance. it proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED."

    "Oh dear", says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.

    "Oh that was easy" says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.
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    Surely any form of real universal translator will be based on numerical input. Once a mathmatical base had been established more complexies could be inputted, but this would still require time and a peroid of learning for any device encountering an unknown language.
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    Is it possible to use genetically engineering to modify how the animals thought processes in a small way to adapt it to the device.
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    If you were to do that though would that be schrodingers cat again that if i modify the animal in some way then i risk it not being the same as before and therefore its thought processes could not be taken as indicative of the species without the gene modification to help the device understand it in the first place?
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