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    http://www.mattmorris.com/personal-d...cation-skills/

    Have you read any of these books, and what are your thoughts? Can they really help and boost our communicating skills?


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    I would imagine they gave you an edge at persuasion! Give it a try, just get them from the library


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    You'd do much better with a basic community college course in communications or joining a group such as toastmasters which teach and allow lots of practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HB3l1 View Post

    No, I have not read any of those books.

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    Can they really help and boost our communicating skills?

    I cannot answer that question.
    "The only safe rule is to dispute only with those of your acquaintance of whom you know that they possess sufficient intelligence and self-respect not to advance absurdities; to appeal to reason and not to authority, and to listen to reason and yield to it; and, finally, to be willing to accept reason even from an opponent, and to be just enough to bear being proved to be in the wrong."

    ~ Arthur Schopenhauer, The Art of Being Right: 38 Ways to Win an Argument (1831), Stratagem XXXVIII.
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    The only one I have read is the Dale Carnegie, How To Win Friends and Influence People. However that was half a century ago. Today I have almost no friends and have difficulty influencing even hamsters. Perhaps I should have paid more attention.
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    You'd do much better with a basic community college course in communications or joining a group such as toastmasters which teach and allow lots of practice.

    Highly possible, but I can't recall that there are similar college courses or groups in my town. And because of that I am limited to boost my communication skills only through books, I know it sounds irrational but that's it..

    @Cogito, Why replied then? :-) Or you replied just because I wrote 'have YOU' ?

    @John Galt Hahah, I need this books not to improve my communication and to influence people in ordinary conversations, but it has more to do with my studies and job.. I eliminated one book from this list.. 'How to win friends and influence people' ..
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    Could I make a different suggestion to a book that doesn't focus on communication as a topic but will help you deal with people more effectively (to be honest without knowing what you need exactly it's hard to make a recommendation) - any-way Daniel Kahnemanns Thinking Fast and Slow will help you understand why others (and you) do the things you do. And another that might help although the title may make it look like its a bit at a tangent is The Elements of Eloquence; how to turn the perfect English phrase Mark Forsyth. It explains how and why rhetorical devices work and what the difference is between a memorable phrase and what isnt.

    I havent read any of those books - I tend to stay away from popular psychology books because they tend to put themselves forward as cure-alls for every situation.
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    I share same tendency .. From my point of view most of the popular psychology books I've read are very cliche and written on the same or similar pattern. Like you said, cure for every obstacle and situation in our life, but still even if a book is utter nonsense we can still benefit from it, if we believe that it really works..?

    Thinking fast and slow is really good yet I need to check The Elements of Eloquence..
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    Quote Originally Posted by HB3l1 View Post
    @Cogito, Why replied then? :-) Or you replied just because I wrote 'have YOU' ?

    Yes, that is why I replied.
    My apologies if my answer was not satisfactory.
    "The only safe rule is to dispute only with those of your acquaintance of whom you know that they possess sufficient intelligence and self-respect not to advance absurdities; to appeal to reason and not to authority, and to listen to reason and yield to it; and, finally, to be willing to accept reason even from an opponent, and to be just enough to bear being proved to be in the wrong."

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    Well you didn't do any harm, but for some unknown reason I expected a better answer from you ^_^ ( this is a lame trick )
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    Not yet cause i mostly reads some book about my course in a school of economics at http://www.helbus.fi/ ,but those books are really interesting after studying i will find and read them.
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    One time I took a class in linguistics and one of the assignments was to record a conversation and transcribe it. They point of the assignment was to look at how spoken language differs from written language in structure and convention. But what was actually more interesting to me was how much in the conversations in which I was a participant I totally missed, that sometimes what I recalled them saying was not really what they had said, or I hadn't caught something.

    I have heard that a good communication technique is to simply rephrase what the person just said, as in "So you're saying that..." or "I get the impression that you feel...." That way they can either say "Yes, that's exactly what I mean" or "Not really, I actually think that...." The problem with miscommunications is that most of us aren't aware it has happened until it results in a problem later on. Also it at least lets people know you understand their position, even you don't completely agree.
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