Thread: Why education system in India is so hopeless?

In our country there are hundreds of thousands of educational institutes it is one of the big business in India.But now a days education is becoming impractical and costlier in India.Schools and Colleges are becoming more like factories that produce Rankers and Careerists.Now a days students are not studying what they love but what has market demand and what their parents make them study.students are under great stress because of the examination system and parents and society.students committing suicides if they fail in some god damn exam.What is all this?Though Indian education system produced outstanding individuals it lacks many qualitative features of say USA's educational system .And in India especially in our state the students who are studying social sciences,basic sciences(like mathematics and physics) is very low(in our state many government and aided colleges are closing because of lack of students ).In our state students usually study engineering(that to computer science and electronics)and medicine(recently it became the costliest one so not many from middle class are studying),pharma,MBA,Chartered Accountancy.Though many scientist are produced through out history by India recently it is very low not many are choosing research field .creativity,integrity are the last things to expect from common average student.Philosophy and moral studies and ethics are ripped of education system because of that many immoral and unethical things happening like raping an 8 year old child and killing a lady for her golden chain and taking money and liquor to vote for a candidate in elections etc.The government is encouraging all this.Common people are thinking why should we care though some are realizing it and creating awareness among people.And also many students are becoming careerists and selfish after studies they think only money and have no social responsibility.A man who is president of press council of India said that 90% of Indians are Idiots since they vote on the basis of money,caste,religion,region.I think that is actually 100% true.(though there are exceptions).So how can we change this?,What are my duties as a responsible citizen?how can we educate people?

Originally Posted by charvaka

creativity,integrity are the last things to expect from common average student.

Glad to see that you're not in any way elitist.

You have made a very insightful post, charvaka.

I have absolutely no knowledge of your country or the conditions there. Years ago, one of my students went to India to participate in the Pushkar Camel Fair Ride, a horseback experience. She had some wonderful things to say about the food, the culture and the fair itself, as well as distress about people being killed was quite common and there were a couple of bodies found very near one of the hotels she was staying in.

The answers shall have to come from within your country itself, if history serves, and the first step is indeed to create an awareness and to liaise with people who share your concerns. Today's technology makes that part much easier than in times past. As far as how the changes can be made, that will be the difficult part.

There are huge challenges in North America as well. The USA and Canada are not perfect models by any stretch of the imagination though they are better in many measurable ways.

I wish you all the best in raising the awareness of your fellow citizens in seeking the path to a better future.

Originally Posted by charvaka

Schools and Colleges are becoming more like factories that produce Rankers and Careerists.Now a days students are not studying what they love but what has market demand and what their parents make them study.

One of the things I've noted that is similar to the educational bodies in Singapore is that there is some conflicting perspectives in finding a balance between providing potential students the necessary skill set so that they may crave out a living in the profession they choose versus the subjects in which they have a passion for. There are similar concerns in both the families and the governing bodies in which direction is best taken. Do I want them to implement a system where they provide the necessary skill sets so that students come out with skills that they are able to put into use so that they are potentially able to find work, or do I want them to focus more on subjects that students may have a passion for, but realizing that there isn't a big market for those professions?

i was abt to post the same my college,school and country everything sucks i hate indian education

Originally Posted by charvaka

Now a days students are not studying what they love but what has market demand and what their parents make them study.students are under great stress because of the examination system and parents and society.students committing suicides if they fail in some god damn exam.

I saw that movie. 3 Idiots - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by Harold14370

Originally Posted by charvaka

Now a days students are not studying what they love but what has market demand and what their parents make them study.students are under great stress because of the examination system and parents and society.students committing suicides if they fail in some god damn exam.

I saw that movie. 3 Idiots - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

see slamdog millinear and others too

Now a days students are not studying what they love but what has market demand and what their parents make them study.students are under great stress because of the examination system and parents and society.students committing suicides if they fail in some god damn exam.

Much of the developed world went through this phase...unfortunately it's still in large part true in the US as well.

.creativity,integrity are the last things to expect from common average student.

No sure what you mean really. But one of the most consistent things research shows about learning...is the fastest way to dash creativity and integrity is not to expect it. Virtually all students, regardless of setting are capable.

.A man who is president of press council of India said that 90% of Indians are Idiots since they vote on the basis of money,caste,religion,region.

You lucky... if only it was that low in the US.

Originally Posted by Lynx_Fox

.A man who is president of press council of India said that 90% of Indians are Idiots since they vote on the basis of money,caste,religion,region.

You lucky... if only it was that low in the US.

And that's 2 more reasons than UK residents have ( - if you consider 'caste' and 'class' to be similar).

Originally Posted by charvaka

In our country there are hundreds of thousands of educational institutes it is one of the big business in India.But now a days education is becoming impractical and costlier in India.Schools and Colleges are becoming more like factories that produce Rankers and Careerists.Now a days students are not studying what they love but what has market demand and what their parents make them study.students are under great stress because of the examination system and parents and society.students committing suicides if they fail in some god damn exam.What is all this?Though Indian education system produced outstanding individuals it lacks many qualitative features of say USA's educational system .And in India especially in our state the students who are studying social sciences,basic sciences(like mathematics and physics) is very low(in our state many government and aided colleges are closing because of lack of students ).In our state students usually study engineering(that to computer science and electronics)and medicine(recently it became the costliest one so not many from middle class are studying),pharma,MBA,Chartered Accountancy.Though many scientist are produced through out history by India recently it is very low not many are choosing research field .creativity,integrity are the last things to expect from common average student.Philosophy and moral studies and ethics are ripped of education system because of that many immoral and unethical things happening like raping an 8 year old child and killing a lady for her golden chain and taking money and liquor to vote for a candidate in elections etc.The government is encouraging all this.Common people are thinking why should we care though some are realizing it and creating awareness among people.And also many students are becoming careerists and selfish after studies they think only money and have no social responsibility.A man who is president of press council of India said that 90% of Indians are Idiots since they vote on the basis of money,caste,religion,region.I think that is actually 100% true.(though there are exceptions).So how can we change this?,What are my duties as a responsible citizen?how can we educate people?

i guess i m in exception
by the way our education ministry is just full of corruption give money get certificate with 90+%

Originally Posted by charvaka

Now a days students are not studying what they love but what has market demand and what their parents make them study.students are under great stress because of the examination system and parents and society.students committing suicides if they fail in some god damn exam.

How about this?

Indian unis had previously succeeded at educating students for their own society/economy. The global economy grew and became a reality, and Indian unis thought they could compete with unis in other countries. A mass failure at the uni level occurring in India may indicate a mismatch between the mandatory levels of education (Grades 1–12) and the unis. The unis may be able to compete at the world or regional level, but there may be this mismatch as noted above.

Another important factor is society. In America, the individual is considered the social unit, meaning that each person is considered his/her own entity. Someone could have a relative in prison and it would not embarrass the family much. In other countries, the family is considered the social unit, meaning that it is considered an entity and that individuals are merely members of that entity. If a family has a relative in prison, it is a shame upon the whole family. This seems more common or stronger in "eastern" countries than in "western" countries. Students who fail in their studies feel they have greatly shamed their families, and they might commit suicide. I think this is what we see happening with Asian and now Indian students.

I can offer an apparent explanation (whether true or not) for this difference between east and west.

Public education everywhere is stupid.

Hmmm....yeah, learning how to find out the fractorial of seven is needed knowledge in modern soceity...hmm..

If you really think that and aren't just trolling (again) it may explain why none of your posts make sense and your opinions are utterly clueless.

No, I do believe that. I don't get why opinions irk you, but so be it..

You don't irk me at all, I just think you're a total dick.

I don't believe that, though you say some people don't deserve rights, so yeah, I believe likewise..

Thank you for proving my point. NOWHERE have I EVER said some people don't deserve rights. Stop trolling.

yes, you have said gays are scum.

no matter, you have your views, I don't care what strangers think.

Liar, post a link to where I said that.

lulz.. i don't care. you're funny due to falsely applied standards.

and you are a proven liar and a troll.

and i must care, when we're all friends and highly benevolent to each other? lol..

Originally Posted by sarnamluvu

falsely applied standards.

Standards of Antioch will falsely overpower the lilies that are thusly applied.

Originally Posted by PumaMan

Originally Posted by sarnamluvu

falsely applied standards.

Standards of Antioch will falsely overpower the lilies that are thusly applied.

But the Treaty of Kalamesh says that the horses are not empowered by trigonometric saffron.

Originally Posted by RedPanda

Originally Posted by PumaMan

Originally Posted by sarnamluvu

falsely applied standards.

Standards of Antioch will falsely overpower the lilies that are thusly applied.

But the Treaty of Kalamesh says that the horses are not empowered by trigonometric saffron.

My horses had better NOT develop a penchant for saffron. Have you seen the price of that commodity?

The Gathering of Saffron $29.99 US or $33.25 CAN.

So confusing......

Originally Posted by scheherazade

My horses had better NOT develop a penchant for saffron. Have you seen the price of that commodity?

Well, if you had actually read the Treaty of Kalamesh, you would know that Canada is exempt.
Sheesh! No-one does research any more!

Because India is hopeless

Originally Posted by YellowKazooie

Because India is hopeless

Oh that's nice. Denigrate an entire nation. Weren't you just suspended?

Originally Posted by PumaMan

Originally Posted by YellowKazooie

Because India is hopeless

Oh that's nice. Denigrate an entire nation.

Yes, why not? Of cource there are wealthy people there but I don't want to mention all the exceptions.

Getting banned for being a stupid troll is sad enough but the fact that you have created another account to have another go is truly pathetic.

Originally Posted by PhDemon

Getting banned for being a stupid troll is sad enough but the fact that you have created another account to have another go is truly pathetic.

I don't understand troll mentality. Why? Are their lives that pathetic?

It would appear so.

Originally Posted by PumaMan

Originally Posted by PhDemon

Getting banned for being a stupid troll is sad enough but the fact that you have created another account to have another go is truly pathetic.

I don't understand troll mentality. Why? Are their lives that pathetic?

Relax, man. Why are you two so angry and mad all the time.Look at PhDemons title. "bullshit intolerant".

Being smart isn't an excuse to act superior or something

Originally Posted by YellowKazooie2

Originally Posted by PumaMan

Originally Posted by YellowKazooie

Because India is hopeless

Oh that's nice. Denigrate an entire nation.

Yes, why not? Of cource there are wealthy people there but I don't want to mention all the exceptions.

i guess u have got no rights to say that about by nation

Originally Posted by Rajnish Kaushik

Originally Posted by YellowKazooie2

Originally Posted by PumaMan

Originally Posted by YellowKazooie

Because India is hopeless

Oh that's nice. Denigrate an entire nation.

Yes, why not? Of cource there are wealthy people there but I don't want to mention all the exceptions.

i guess u have got no rights to say that about by nation

@Rajnish Kaushik, just ignore what that guy posted. He was a troll, he was reported, and he is now banned. He intentionally made offensive posts.

i have to say Education and science is not name of remembering things alpha beta gamma etc. The main problem is people think education is money and bank balance but i think there is a thing out there more than just this that is holy curiosty and following passion of his heart.Thats why once Einstein said "Its a miracle that holy curiosty survived from the formal education".And i am so emotional because my first year exam are waiting form me.Ok bye got to work alpha = beta +gamma blah blah.

Originally Posted by PumaMan

Originally Posted by Rajnish Kaushik

Originally Posted by YellowKazooie2

Originally Posted by PumaMan

Originally Posted by YellowKazooie

Because India is hopeless

Oh that's nice. Denigrate an entire nation.

Yes, why not? Of cource there are wealthy people there but I don't want to mention all the exceptions.

i guess u have got no rights to say that about by nation

@Rajnish Kaushik, just ignore what that guy posted. He was a troll, he was reported, and he is now banned. He intentionally made offensive posts.

thnx for that sir