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    Global Warming Theories Fizzle, New Studies Show

    Saturday, July 21, 2007

    With little fanfare, claims of alarming changes in nature because of global warming are being discredited.

    Results of two new studies of historical hurricane patterns add to a growing body of research that discredits global warming alarmism, said James M. Taylor, an environmental policy senior fellow at The Heartland Institute.

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    Supporting the finding that air and sea temperatures are, at best, minor factors in hurricane activity was another report in the May 24 issue of Nature by another team of scientists. They reconstructed a 5,000-year history of major hurricane strikes in the Atlantic basin, finding that long-term trends in the El Nino/Southern Oscillation and West African monsoons were far more predictive of frequent and intense hurricane seasons than were air and sea temperatures.

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    One example cited is a well-publicized report of the World Wildlife Fund on March 14, 2005, claiming "Himalayan glaciers are among the fastest retreating glaciers globally due to the effects of global warming." Yet the September 2006 issue of the American Meteorological Society's Journal of Climate reported: "Glaciers are growing in the Himalayan Mountains, confounding global warming alarmists who have recently claimed the glaciers were shrinking and that global warming was to blame."

    A Reuter's News Agency report Nov. 6, 2001, said "Africa's highest mountain might lose its all-year ice cap and snow by 2015 due to climate changes threatening to worsen an already tight water supply, the environment group Greenpeace said Tuesday." Yet an article in the Nov. 23, 2003, issue of Nature said, "Although it's tempting to blame the ice loss on global warming, researchers think that deforestation of the mountain's foothills is the more likely culprit."

    In a 2006 policy brief, Earthjustice asserted, "The contracting winter sea-ice around the Antarctic Peninsula due to the earth's warming trend is responsible for the dramatic decrease in Adelie Penguin populations on the Antarctic Peninsula." In February this year, Taylor said, the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change noted that Antarctic ice mass is growing rather than shrinking, and will continue to do so for at least the next full century.
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    The debate rages on, unfortunatley it is cluttered with non-scientific observations which can make it very hard to be objective. If a pro-global warming journalist says something about the himalayas in support of manmade global warming, and then you see that they are wrong for good scientific reasons, is that a blow for manmade global warming or just the integrity of the journalist?

    Here is an interesting site set up by a remarkable child in America http://home.earthlink.net/~ponderthemaunder/index.html - She has gathered a lot of information about the debate and makes reasonably sensible comments and observations.


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    The relation of water temperature and hurricane activity are pretty well established as important. El Nino's (a's) also established in directional activity of weather front movements. With regards to hurricane/cyclones what has not been explained are the upper atmosphere air currents which play big rolls in there development and build up in grade. Maybe a little better understanding of what causes these conditions, even if related to Nino/Nina...is in order.

    In either event, even the extreme elements of GW are skeptical to link GW and these events.
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    Some good posts above. Congrats. It renews my faith that some individuals can get beyond the rhetoric and 'agenda' and actually look at the quality of the science of global warming.

    Re: "If a pro-global warming journalist says something about the himalayas in support of manmade global warming, and then you see that they are wrong for good scientific reasons, is that a blow for manmade global warming or just the integrity of the journalist? "

    Yes and no. 'Why' is there a preponderance of poor journalism when it comes to the global warming debate? Which is more likely to be pursued: "Not much is happening" or "Heat wave sweeps Britain". What better hook to add to the latter story than some nebulous global warming link? The public believes a preponderous 'scientific of evidence because they've been subject to sensationalism over and over.

    I've been a scientist for 33 years and the quality of the scientific claims re global warming would get a D minus on a paper. No, it doesn't mean that man made global warming might not be happening but it also means that some of the 'evidence' is just plain silly.
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    in a journalistic nutshell : everything causes global warming and everything is caused by global warming

    e.g. this is the wettest summer in the UK since 1956 but 1956's summer was cold while this time it isn't - that's obviously global warming (+ poor statistics) at work !
    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." (Philip K. Dick)
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