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    Can anyone explain the phenomenon of chandeliering? Caught on video recently: Strange ice 'chandeliering' phenomena caught on tape - YouTube


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    The ice is pushing in under extreme pressure. That effect is where it gives.
    There was another thread with videos on this not long ago at all... I do not remember the title of that thread.


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    I began the other thread called Ice "tsunami" creeps ashore at Lake Mille Lacs in Minnesota. And now I know they call it "chandeliering", although the video I found showed the overall encroachment (like a tsunami) and not the fineness of the shattering ice. The nice details here make it still rather curious. In my thread, the ice has a crunching sound and it damaged buildings, but here it has a shattering sound and seems to fall apart on its own.
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    I watched your "creeps" link with interest. Looks to be a combination but on a massive scale. The chandeliering and the creeping do have that kind of rolling billowing characteristic. I have found no plausable explanation for either and have yet to witness either while it is happening.
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    In the Medicine Lake video there were children "touching" the ice. The day was sunny and above 32 degrees. This super cooled water property is of interest, but there has to be more to it. I have not seen or heard of a reproductionof this phenomenon in a controlled laboratory setting.Has anyone ever seen this in the lab?
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    Have you observed that cascading pure, fine crystalization? Is it triggered by an impurity like cloud seeding? What happens when that levitated supercooled droplet gets hit with the energy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Josey View Post
    In the Medicine Lake video there were children "touching" the ice. The day was sunny and above 32 degrees. This super cooled water property is of interest, but there has to be more to it. I have not seen or heard of a reproductionof this phenomenon in a controlled laboratory setting.Has anyone ever seen this in the lab?
    Other ice particles make ideal surfaces for recrystalization of super cooler water particles, so I think that's the least likely to explain the Chandeliering.
    In the atmosphere super cooled water droplets are very common and part of producing nearly all rain out of the tropics.
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