Thread: The Green house effect

I'd like to discuss one more ecological problem - the greenhouse effect.
My opinion on this topic is that the greenhouse effect is a possibility for creating new sediments of organic wastes and appearing new resourses: the oil and the gas we excessivly nee d to. Looking forward to your vi9ews and answers.

How?

In this way:
Greenhouseeffect makes the atmosphere warm and in that case as at the equator there will be superfluous humus which didn't manage to norish into the ground - organic humus needed for creating oil, coal,gas.
However we need a lot of time waiting for it !!

Actually, the green house effect caused by humans is almost non-existant compare to the reality of the planets own changes. The planet is going through a similar stage it did in history, super volcano's are way overdue, tectonic plates are bound to finally break free, the earth is heading for quite a large number of catastrophes, and many people fortell the increase in natural diasters as "the time of the end" and "mans doing". Granted, man isn't helping that fact, but most of them are caused by the earth itself! Regardless of human existence or not. There is no stopping it, only quickly revising planetairy social structure, education, living style, resource use, etc, in time so we don't all die. But of course, that wont happen, since it'll never happen! God will save everybody! Right? Right?!?

Edit for those with no sense of sarcasm: THIS IS SARCASM. Well, the last part, but humans haven't done as much damage as they think. Granted, it's a lot of damage on ecological scales, but not as much as you may think.

Actually, the green house effect caused by humans is almost non-existant compare to the reality of the planets own changes.

Ok, I take it back. I seriously doubt this claim but if you can include a link to the information or show that includes this information I'll gladly take a look. :wink:

God will save everybody! Right? Right?!?

If you wake up and your house is on fire, are you going to do something about it, by either getting the extinguisher to stop the fire or by getting out, or are you going to sit there and pray for God to save you?

As for Greenhouse effect being a source/catalys for new oil and gas, imo the effect is either none existant or negligable considering the pletora of other impacts that will be quite significant. :wink:

Uh...the above poster apparently knows nothing of sarcasm... but, hey, you just disagreed with the science channel on cabel TV!

I disagree with everyone so far. Greenhouse warming is a serious problem and not caused by the motion of the earth with respect to the sun, or volcanic activity etc. It is man's doing, no doubt. Before the start of the industrial age things were in balance and would have remained so for a few thousand years. There is data to show this.

Adding extra CO2 causes clearer skies. While the planet heats up from greenhous effect, northern winters get colder and this releases CO2 from the ocean. Past the point of no return I figure.

Actually, the planet should in effect generate *MORE* clouds and rainfall from the increased temperature and thus make up for the loss as long as there is enough water to equal it. And the planet is rather *good* at defending itself, I honestly think that even though we are, in fact, HELPING this along ignorantly, it's not entirely our faults.

:-D You have a good point and I hope you are right! One thing I particularly like about your response is the acceptance of the idea that it is the amount of cloud cover that determines what happens. Conventional wisdom is that it is the amount of heat from the Sun that causes climate change. As you and I apparently agree it is the amount of cloud that is important and that depends on the relative ocean temperature.

No one to my knowledge fully understands the effects of clouds. On the one hand they act as blankets and keep heat in, on the other they act as reflectors and keep solar radiation out.

I personally think the changes in ocean circulation, caused by the melting of the ice caps will have the most fundamentally devastating affect (although I concede that this is linked to the atmosphere and clouds).

Not entirely so. If it becomes that hot a lot of the moisture will start becomming vapor. We shouldn't have to worry. What we need to worry about would be Erosion. Eventually water *overtaking* the land by eroding it. Which happens in many areas.