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  1. #1 The forensic laboratories that are paid per conviction 
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    The forensic laboratories that are paid per conviction | Neurobonkers | Big Think

    Considering how most people feel about forensic evidence, I find this article very disturbing. I'm very glad the states I've been living in are not on this guys list.

    Given the conflict of interest created by this situation you have to wonder how elected officials could let this happen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Robot View Post
    Given the conflict of interest created by this situation you have to wonder how elected officials could let this happen.
    Thars money in them thar prisons....


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    Quote Originally Posted by RedPanda View Post
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    Given the conflict of interest created by this situation you have to wonder how elected officials could let this happen.
    Thars money in them thar prisons....
    But damn! It's not like we don't have enough real guilty people to put in prison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Robot View Post
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    Thars money in them thar prisons....
    But damn! It's not like we don't have enough real guilty people to put in prison.
    That only makes sense if there is such a thing as 'enough' money.

    Innocent? Guilty? Who cares!
    As long as the money keeps rolling in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Robot View Post
    The forensic laboratories that are paid per conviction | Neurobonkers | Big Think

    Considering how most people feel about forensic evidence, I find this article very disturbing. I'm very glad the states I've been living in are not on this guys list.

    Given the conflict of interest created by this situation you have to wonder how elected officials could let this happen.
    that is scary!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Robot View Post
    The forensic laboratories that are paid per conviction | Neurobonkers | Big Think

    Considering how most people feel about forensic evidence, I find this article very disturbing. I'm very glad the states I've been living in are not on this guys list.

    Given the conflict of interest created by this situation you have to wonder how elected officials could let this happen.
    Akin to budgeting FBI something in the hundreds of MILLIONS of dollars to hand out to informers! Christ, I'd lie my ass off to them about some dislikable neighbor to get a piece of such a giveaway! Can you imagine the typical scumbag-type spilling his guts to get free dough? G.D. disgusting is what it is. Cops BUYING instead of EARNING, convictions. Small wonder the prisons are bursting at the seams! Don't get me started! jocular
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    Quote Originally Posted by jocular View Post
    ... Don't get me started! jocular
    That horse is already out of the barn.

    .........................................
    Long ago:
    A friend of mine was sentenced to death by lying cops and cheating prosecutors(failing to disclose exculpatory evidence) and a biased judge.

    The good news, 3 years later, the truth came to light, and he was freed.
    and
    3 years on death row got him out of being a practicing alchoholic.

    .........
    As long as our "justice" system is an adversarial system wherein winning outweighs any quest for truth, we will have those who would win any cost.

    It seems that there simply MUST be a better way, but no-one seems to have found it(yet).
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    Quote Originally Posted by sculptor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jocular View Post
    ... Don't get me started! jocular
    That horse is already out of the barn.

    .........................................
    Long ago:
    A friend of mine was sentenced to death by lying cops and cheating prosecutors(failing to disclose exculpatory evidence) and a biased judge.

    The good news, 3 years later, the truth came to light, and he was freed.
    and
    3 years on death row got him out of being a practicing alcoholic.

    .........
    As long as our "justice" system is an adversarial system wherein winning outweighs any quest for truth, we will have those who would win any cost.

    It seems that there simply MUST be a better way, but no-one seems to have found it(yet).
    They make stories like that into movies, as so many people can identify with the horror and the helplessness anyone in that position will feel. How much money did they offer him for his pain and suffering?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Robot View Post
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    ... Don't get me started! jocular
    That horse is already out of the barn.

    .........................................
    Long ago:
    A friend of mine was sentenced to death by lying cops and cheating prosecutors(failing to disclose exculpatory evidence) and a biased judge.

    The good news, 3 years later, the truth came to light, and he was freed.
    and
    3 years on death row got him out of being a practicing alcoholic.

    .........
    As long as our "justice" system is an adversarial system wherein winning outweighs any quest for truth, we will have those who would win any cost.

    It seems that there simply MUST be a better way, but no-one seems to have found it(yet).
    They make stories like that into movies, as so many people can identify with the horror and the helplessness anyone in that position will feel. How much money did they offer him for his pain and suffering?
    Should have offered to become a "compensated informant"...... joc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sculptor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jocular View Post
    ... Don't get me started! jocular
    That horse is already out of the barn.

    .........................................
    Long ago:
    A friend of mine was sentenced to death by lying cops and cheating prosecutors(failing to disclose exculpatory evidence) and a biased judge.

    The good news, 3 years later, the truth came to light, and he was freed.
    and
    3 years on death row got him out of being a practicing alcoholic.

    .........
    As long as our "justice" system is an adversarial system wherein winning outweighs any quest for truth, we will have those who would win any cost.

    It seems that there simply MUST be a better way, but no-one seems to have found it(yet).
    They make stories like that into movies, as so many people can identify with the horror and the helplessness anyone in that position will feel. How much money did they offer him for his pain and suffering?
    as/re $: I do not know
    I think Gary Gauger got $100k from the state of illinois, but had to share that with the lawyers who helped him.

    Watch Deadline | XFINITY TV
    You'll se Gary 19:12 into the flick

    He is also represented in a play "the exonerated"

    Gary is a gentle soul and a vegetarian....
    His trouble has turned me against the death penalty-----even Gary doesn't want the guys who actually killed his folks put to death.
    So I have no trouble following his lead on this issue.

    Though we went to the same church, I knew Gary's dad before I knew Gary. In 1965 I bought a harley and crashed often and Mory Gauger loaned me his tools, sold me the parts, and taught me how to repair the bike. GOD bless him.

    http://www.mchenrycounty1981.com/arc...7/gary-gauger/
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  12. #11 Geneticists & Forensic Investigators Can Unmask Criminals With The Genetic Identification 
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    The high quality protein and genomic isolation in the short span of time is needed to serve different purposes from clinical trial with therapeutic drugs to CSI (Crime Scene Investigation) under forensic department, so a bench-top easy to lyse homogenizer with ready to use isolation kits can only serve these purposes.


    As seen on CSI (Crime Scene Investigation),
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    solation of DNA, RNA, proteins, metabolites and other small moleculesfrom the dried bodily fluids to solid matrices such as fabrics, cigarette butts, and condoms is needed to get a relation between crime and the suspected criminal.

    Strong evidence with the genome identity of suspected criminal can't be manipulated but a factful evidence is enough to send criminals into prison.
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