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    Hello

    Wondering if you gents can help me out here, I bought a genuine XP disk for my home computers. I have a laptop and Desktop computer.

    I wanted to install windows using the same disk which i thought would be acceptable, I have installed onto the laptop no problems but on the desktop it says the key is used!

    Do i really need to buy a disk for each computer, what a rip!!

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    Do you have internet connected?


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    Yes, they both connect via wireless
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    During install, does it notify you that it is going to activate your software online?
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    I have it installed on both computers, the laptop installed fine and registered the copy of windows with microsoft online when it first installed.

    Then i installed it onto the desktop computer, installed all fine but logged into windows for the first time and tried to register online with microsoft using the same key as the laptop but it says the key is invalid as its reached it's limit of use.

    I want to be able to download all the updates etc on both computers.

    I think thats a bit of a joke, I paid full price for the damn cd and expected it to work on both computers, now they expect me to buy a cd per computer. :x :x
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    If I'm not mistaken, you are allowed to install it on a laptop and a pc, but not on 2 pc's. So cancel the automatic activation and phone the activation hotline and choose to speak to a consultant. Explain your situation. If that doesn’t work, you could go the illegal route. There are plenty of patches available. But I do not recommend it, of course!
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    Just spoken to the idiots, one serial key per computer!! rip off jokers
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    Microsoft does suck big time, I agree! So what are you going to do? By another copy or do a patch on your pc?
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    or take the plunge and install linux ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by crichton01
    Just spoken to the idiots, one serial key per computer!! rip off jokers
    No it isn't. They don't claim otherwise. Be sure to research any software products you buy. You don't buy a car and call it a 'rip off' when an auto company doesn't honor a 5 year warranty in the 8th year. If you wanted an 8 year warranty then the car would have cost more. Microsoft is very clear and up front on it's software use. If it isn't to your liking then purchase another product.

    It's incredible folks have bitched about Microsoft OPs for well over a decade but keep buying them. ..."My Chrysler is a lemon...gee whiz...I think I'll ignore the other quality cars out there buy the latest Chrsyler product...it has all these new useless bells and whistles"
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    At no point did I complain about the software, so you can save your little speech.

    my gripe is with having to buy an additional license.
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    MS (like ALL non-osd OS companies, before anyone chimes in) distributes various types of installation packages. Some are good for several "seats," others are seat independent, and others are OEM disks that are ONLY good for a single installed (often because they are meant to be installed on a machine for sale, hence OEM).

    The details of the license and seat allowances is usually always written somewhere on the package so you know exactly what you will be able to do. This is sadly not often the case with OEM distributions because sometimes the disks are sold in OEM packaging that doesn't ready "Not For Individual Sale."
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    Quote Originally Posted by crichton01
    At no point did I complain about the software, so you can save your little speech.

    my gripe is with having to buy an additional license.
    Why is it a gripe? What is Microsoft suppose to do? Spend bilions of dollars creating a software package and then sell one copy for a couple hundred dollars? They didn't change the terms of their sale 'to get you'. Folks treat Microsoft as if they are a government department andt here is an entitlement to access their product. Hint: it's a private free enterprise company and they sell software for money. Thy have no other goals.

    simple: if you are not happy with the terms, then don't buy it. The have provided you exactly with what they offered. your gripe should be with yourself for not doing what a responsible consumer should do. We are a couple mouse clicks away from researching any product and knowing terms,warranties, return policy, etc. Last month i was going to buy a particular flat screen sreen TV that had a built in DVDplayer and doubled as a computer monitor. 5 minutes of googling revealed that it was a poor purchase and some pitfalls in quality, accesories, repair issues, compatibility, and so on. Saved aggravation and $299.
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    I will answer your question, why is it a gripe?

    I am cheesed off that I have to buy an additional license to be able to install on both systems when they are both my possessions, why should i pay twice for something that's already there.

    If i was a carpenter, i'd expect to buy one hammer to hammer in nails. Not buy a new hammer for every nail I had to hit.
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    and others are OEM disks
    That would explain it. If I remember correctly, you are actually only allowed to install an OEM product for a certain period after your initial pc purchase. If I were you, I’d check to see if you paid the same for your OEM product as a standard retail product. That would mean that your supplier deliberately sell OEM products outside of the window period to make more profit. If that were the case, I’d confront him and demand a proper retail disk.

    P.S: I only buy Microsoft products, because I don't want to go through all the hassle of running OS emulators on other OS's to be able to play games or run Office and the like. Also, most other people have Microsoft products as standard on their PC's (at least in my country), so I have to conform to avoid an inordinate amount of hassle.
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    OEM OS CDs are often sold by themselves when there is a surplus. They are intentionally only cut for the purpose of bundling them with a computer, and in that case, they only need to be able to install one seat.

    When the OEM CDs are distributed by themselves, you get that single seat deal, bundled with the cheaper price. That's the attraction of the OEM disks. If those restrictions aren't desired, then you can't go for the deal.


    As for Microsoft, I used to spend a LOT of my time debunking and arguing with people about their gripes and problems with MS. In the end I found I was continually butting heads with people's desire to cling to stupid things that are popular. Ragging on MS is popular, so no matter what the reality, people will rag on MS.

    I have an IT oriented career, and I see a WHOLE LOT of environments of all different types, from government users down to mom-n-pop shop types. From all the examining of Windows across all these various implementations, I've pulled together a few findings...I'll list a couple here for the sake of it...

    1. Whatever the TV commercials may make you think, MS isn't in the OS industry to sell to individual home users. They're a multinational software corporation out to make money.

    2. MS doesn't listen to complaints, they listen to supported suggestions.

    3. The most common cause of BSODs? Cheap hardware.

    4. 95% of all problems experienced by Windows users are due to user stupidity or ignorance. A little knowledge goes a long way, and you don't have to be a computer science major to know it, either.


    BTW, what's the most popular console game on the market produced by Apple? :P
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