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  1. #1 Will A.I replace most if not all of our jobs? 
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    Also what will the world be like if there are no jobs left? Will we just sit around all day doing nothing? Or will there always be jobs regardless?


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    Basic automation has replaced many of our jobs and continues to do so, you don't even have to bring AI into it. Although AI does create the potential to lose even more jobs to automation. At the current rate of population increase and technological progress, we will reach a point where we have way more potential workers than jobs and this will create a big problem. How this problem will be solved is anyone's guess at this point. Personally, I think we will have to switch to a Universal Basic Income system. Here's a link to the wiki page on UBI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_income


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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsessed With Gaming View Post
    Also what will the world be like if there are no jobs left? Will we just sit around all day doing nothing? Or will there always be jobs regardless?
    As F360 mentioned this is happening already. Work is declining. There is no one solution to this, but some potential mitigations might be:

    30 and 20 hour work weeks (happening already to some degree)
    Telecommuting for wider availability of work
    Lowering the minimum wage (note that this has other problems)
    Legal mandates that prohibit automation of certain jobs
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    Quote Originally Posted by billvon View Post
    Lowering the minimum wage (note that this has other problems)
    Legal mandates that prohibit automation of certain jobs
    Bill, I agree with your potential solutions but these two unfortunately seem like the two that will get pushed first despite them being some of the most regressive of the possible mitigations. Lowering the minimum wage to discourage automation is like cutting off your foot to fix a broken toe.

    Legal mandates that prohibit automation will undoubtedly be tried. It's ridiculous though. Did we pass legislation to stop refrigerators from putting the iceman out of business? Living in a rural area that has traditionally based it's arguments off of mining and logging I've seen automation cost lots of jobs. The one local sawmill closed because the owners operated another mill fifty miles away that had newer equipment that enabled them to do more work with less workers, and it was cheaper to just reroute the logs trucks to that mill rather than upgrade the local one. Even if they had chosen to upgrade the local one, only half the employees would have been needed after the upgrade.

    Legislating against progress simply because we want there to be more jobs is just stupid. The human race as a whole has pretty much always dedicated itself to finding ways to do more work with less effort, which means the end goal would be to have work done with no effort expended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falconer360 View Post
    Bill, I agree with your potential solutions but these two unfortunately seem like the two that will get pushed first despite them being some of the most regressive of the possible mitigations. Lowering the minimum wage to discourage automation is like cutting off your foot to fix a broken toe.
    I agree; both are poor solutions. But if nothing else works, poor solutions may be all we have.
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    I'm mainly afraid that other solutions won't be tried first, that they will just try the poor solutions and settle for those. Were you part of the discussion on this on the .org site that Inow, Lynx, and I were a part of? I think it was sometime last year.
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    I hadn't thought about this issue much. Apparently this guest of Joe Rogan has;

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