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  1. #1 Hack Programs ! 
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    Here we can post hack programs !


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    No we can't!


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    Quote Originally Posted by qenpo
    Here we can post hack programs !
    No but we could debate hacking.
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    True, but that depends on your definition of "hack".
    In the world of hacking, hacking is more of a complementory phrase for those fairly good at code editing and manipulation (normally by use of Assemblers Language) in a legal manner.
    Whereas by cantrast, a cracker is one which would excel in acheiving things by illegal means (such as cracking into someones computer).

    Dictionary wise, "hacker" covers them both. However to avoid confusion it's best to associate the illegal act with "crack" (commonly known with pirated software), and "hack" as someone proficient with code.
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    To me 'cracking' is a bit like reverse engineering, undertaken to defeat some 'lock' and allowing the use of the software, or defeating some copy protect software, or merely an attempt to understand it's operation.

    and 'Hacking' is no more or less than'breaking into' another system in order to input/extract or modify data within that system. I can accept that lexicographers may generate their own definitions. Hacking as in slicing into.

    A hack may also be an 'old hand' but the term hacker in computing I do not think came by this route. :wink:
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    Fair enough. However I prefer to define them so it's clear cut legal/illegal. Then you know which one you're talking about.

    But it appears both definitions have equal use. NOW what to we discuss?
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    Dunno, Weather perhaps? - rainy dull here...

    As to the legality I guess that depends on whether you are working for yourself or some government agency, since governments can make anything legal for their own operatives.. :wink:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megabrain
    Dunno, Weather perhaps? - rainy dull here...

    As to the legality I guess that depends on whether you are working for yourself or some government agency, since governments can make anything legal for their own operatives.. :wink:
    That's the problem with the government. If it's for "national security" they can withhold anything from a product that could save the lives of millions, to information that could improve the world. I just "love" the governments "power" to keep information from the people when it's supposed to SERVE the people! Grah!

    regardless, the definitions fit for those average jo's. So lets exclude those funded by the government.
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    Hey guys, you looked kinda bored here so i thought i would say hi, im new here but so far i think its good..was wondering how i would become a mod or something
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    Quote Originally Posted by shorty
    Hey guys, you looked kinda bored here so i thought i would say hi, im new here but so far i think its good..was wondering how i would become a mod or something
    Easy, get your hair cut short, wair a nice suit and ride around on a Lambretta or Velocet.

    Anyway, as for cracking, backward engineering it maybe called. This is what happened withi IBM's machine, there was something wrong with the patent or they didnt patent the machine in time and before they knew it everyone was producting one. Now IBM produce cash registers for a living :?
    (Of course they do more than that!! - In fact IBM's business got into so much trouble during the early 90's that the big companies who were producing printers at that time helped them out with a bit of cash on the condition that they stopped producing printers for a certain length of time; which of course they did. Although, they are now producing them under the trademark of "Lexmark"

    Anyway, I went off on a tangent there.......When you buy a piece of software, you do not own the software, what you own is the licence to use the software; the programme itself along with the code belongs to the company issuing the licence. (This is international copyright law) So any attempt to "backward engineer" a programme would be considered illegal and breach of your End User Licence Agreement.

    If you must dis-assemble anything, make sure it is "open source".

    And as for "hacking" I.E - Getting into sorporate / government networks and into areas which you are not supposed to. That in itself would not, in my opinion be considered a crime as long as no attempt was made to modify, read or write data to those areas. Having said that, burgalrs do not break into people's houses just to "see if they can". Hacking is the digital form of "Breaking and entering"
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