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    Hi programmers (and everybody else too of course)!
    I would like to learn programming, and I need your help.
    Yesterday I downloaded Microsoft Visual 2008 Express (by the way, is the good?), and I'd be grateful if anybody could give jus a brief lesson of how I use this program. Then I don't mean the C++ language, but how you create files, compile them etc.
    Thanks! :-D


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    WOW, uhhh mmm how to tell you this...........

    Read the manuel I am not familar with compilling or rendering using visual but I will say you will need to code before you can compile ( enless you are modeling but if you are modeling I doubt ur using visual)

    there are online turtorials for visual offered by miscrosoft.......


    I say start smalll then work towards visual.


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    Hello,
    Browse this site for
    microsoft visual 2008 express
    msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/beginner/default.aspx
    For C++
    http://www.softwarepreservation.org/..../Tutorial.pdf
    Thnks
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    id start with getting a book from a library on C++ or Java.

    for C++ i use the Bloodshed Dev C++ IDE

    and for Java i use the JDK and JCreator for my IDE because i despise notepad.

    i have microsoft visual C++, but i stopped trying to learn it after a few days because i was using a free version and after a while i had to pay to use it.
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    www.microsoft.com/express/vc

    This link gives you a direct link to download the free student version of MS-VC++. It is "gimped" because they took out a lot of features, but for basic programs, it is perfect. If you end up knowing what you're doing, then the stuff they took out won't harm you at all because the only things missing are the automatic setup of multiple types of projects. That is something you can do on your own with a blank project and a little knowledge.

    If you need windows.h and other windows files, you'll need to download the Microsoft SDK, which is also available on their site. I don't think any beginner will need them.

    For learning C++, I would suggest a good tutorial online, like http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/ .

    Good luck
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    PHP stands for PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor.. PHP is a server-side scripting language, like ASP... PHP scripts are executed on the server.. PHP supports many databases (MySQL, Informix, Oracle, Sybase, Solid, PostgreSQL, Generic ODBC, etc.).. PHP is an open source software... PHP is free to download and use.. PHP files can contain text, HTML tags and scripts.. PHP files are returned to the browser as plain HTML ...PHP files have a file extension of ".php",".php3", or ".phtml"...PHP runs on different platforms (Windows, Linux, Unix, etc.)...PHP is compatible with almost all servers used today (Apache, IIS, etc.)...PHP is FREE to download.... PHP is easy to learn and runs efficiently on the server side...
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevejack
    PHP stands for PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor.. PHP is a server-side scripting language, like ASP... PHP scripts are executed on the server.. PHP supports many databases (MySQL, Informix, Oracle, Sybase, Solid, PostgreSQL, Generic ODBC, etc.).. PHP is an open source software... PHP is free to download and use.. PHP files can contain text, HTML tags and scripts.. PHP files are returned to the browser as plain HTML ...PHP files have a file extension of ".php",".php3", or ".phtml"...PHP runs on different platforms (Windows, Linux, Unix, etc.)...PHP is compatible with almost all servers used today (Apache, IIS, etc.)...PHP is FREE to download.... PHP is easy to learn and runs efficiently on the server side...
    Why recommend a language that is pretty much limited to browser/database apps ? Personally, I started with basic, then assembler, C, then VC, and finally VC++.

    just my opinion...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarpeDiem
    id start with getting a book from a library on C++ or Java.

    for C++ i use the Bloodshed Dev C++ IDE

    and for Java i use the JDK and JCreator for my IDE because i despise notepad.

    i have microsoft visual C++, but i stopped trying to learn it after a few days because i was using a free version and after a while i had to pay to use it.
    My instructors always say when begining to program its better to use text-based editors with out syntax error support because it doenst matter whether your IDE points an error to you when you don't have an idea of what that error message means. And it also makes you lazy After you get a feel for how a program's structure should be, you can rid yourself of compile time errors. Don't you guys agree?
    i suggest using Borland Turbo 4.5 for c++
    Text editor for java (after making sure you have JDK and Jre installed)
    and then move on to Netbeans or JCreator for gui-based java application writing.
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    I agree, starting out with a text-based editor is better. I was using a raw text editor and comand-line gcc when I started C++. Then I went on to makefiles. Then some free C++ editor, then Visual C++.

    For learning, I'd recommend something like python (download for free! Includes a text editor) or ruby or even scheme - something with an interactive command line you can experiment in. I wouldn't recommend Visual C++. Too complex, and not necessarily better.
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