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March 16th, 2014, 03:26 PM
Is it theoretically possible?
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Maybe one of the Hydrogen atoms could form a hydrogen bond with an Oxygen atom, like how water attracts water.
Haven't we already been through this, here? Is there a compound in the Universe which is Oxygen Hydrogen Hydrogen Nitrogen OH2N?Originally Posted by Mark_Isaac_10
Yes we have, the guy doesn't listen or learn...
I have studied more chemistry since then, and I believe this a new angle. In this question I'm asking more practically using simple terms and real phenomenon for inspiration. If anyone out there has studied chemistry academically and has an answer I would like to hear it and the workings out.
Both exchemist and myself have studied chemistry (at the same university as it happens) and I have been involved in chemistry research for 15 years. We have both explained in your earlier threads why your idea is nonsense. Give it up.
Haven't we already been through this, here? Is there a compound in the Universe which is Oxygen Hydrogen Hydrogen Nitrogen OH2N?[/QUOTE]
I would like to restart as it were in these forums, my interest is real, I don't mean to annoy anyone, I will try to be as clear as I possibly can from now on.
(Let's forget I mentioned magnetism, and the Brain) Let's pretend I'm a new user or a guest reading the forums and have this question on my mind. Could you possibly tell me if Nitrogen Hydrogen Hydrogen could combine with Oxygen in any way?
H2N. is a free-radical species that will be unstable in the presence of other molecules. It may combine with oxygen but if it did, as we have said before, H2N-O. is also an unstable radical. Both have incomplete valence shells, which they will gain extra stability by completing, through forming another covalent bond to something else. Hydrogen bonding does not do this and will not help.
The "molecule" you appear obsessed with is an unstable radical and no amount of futzing arund with hydrogen bonding or anything ele will change that fact.
Well, in a gas with just NH2, you would get N2H4 pretty quickly, or is it me who is getting ahead of myself. If it has the chance to either break up an oxygen, molecule, just to form another radical, it would be much more energetically pleasant, to bind to itself, then either kick out the hydrogens, and form N2 and supply additional hydrogens to the other NH2 who get stable by forming NH3 - NH4+.
Exothermic, or endothermic anyone? I am too lazy to grab a calculator right now.
Last edited by Zwolver; March 17th, 2014 at 11:23 AM. Reason: Adding a space
Thank you, I'm actually glad that this molecule would be an unstable radical. I feel like I understand now, if I mange to do anything cool with this compound I will definitely mention the helpfulness of this forum.
I guess I had a hard time explaining that I would have wanted this molecule to be unstable, where as it's more logical to think that I would have wanted it to be stable.
Last edited by Mark_Isaac_10; March 17th, 2014 at 09:58 AM. Reason: After thought
If you write anything and if it is related to the silly idea in your other thread please don't mention my name unless it is saying I said it was silly.
Yes N2H4, hydrazine, would be formed if you had a supply of NH2. radicals. (Where from, though, is another issue.) But hydrazine reacts with oxygen, if present, to give N2 and water.
What you do not get is the "hydroxylamino" radical, NH2O. , that our poster seems concerned with. Though conceivably you might get it briefly, as a very short-lived intermediate in a chain reaction, or something.
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