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    Eugenie S. Reich reports:
    "Swedish researchers have reported strong evidence for the formation of element 115, some 9 years after Russian researchers first claimed to detect a nucleus with 115 protons."


    Although other scientists have published about the fusion reaction that lead to the creation of element 288115,
    IUPAC (Barber, R.C. et al, 2011) wrote this two years ago:
    "Chemical properties of confirmed heavy elements are important for improving relativistic theories of chemical behavior.
    However, by itself, current theory is sufficiently uncertain that it cannot be used to distinguish the properties of Groups 4 and 5 elements in this region with confidence."


    Although IUPAC (International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry) has yet to confirm and name the element, its provisional name is Ununpentium.

    So how would you name it if IUPAC confirmed its existence and asked for your opinion about a possible name?


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    Swedes claim confirmation of element 115 : Nature News Blog
    Barber, R.C. et al. (2011), "Discovery of the elements with atomic numbers greater than or equal to 113 (IUPAC Technical Report)", Pure Appl. Chem. 83(7), p. 1489
    Spectroscopy of Element 115 Decay Chains


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cogito Ergo Sum View Post
    Eugenie S. Reich reports:
    "Swedish researchers have reported strong evidence for the formation of element 115, some 9 years after Russian researchers first claimed to detect a nucleus with 115 protons."


    Although other scientists have published about the fusion reaction that lead to the creation of element 288115,
    IUPAC (Barber, R.C. et al, 2011) wrote this two years ago:
    "Chemical properties of confirmed heavy elements are important for improving relativistic theories of chemical behavior.
    However, by itself, current theory is sufficiently uncertain that it cannot be used to distinguish the properties of Groups 4 and 5 elements in this region with confidence."


    Although IUPAC (International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry) has yet to confirm and name the element, its provisional name is Ununpentium.

    So how would you name it if IUPAC confirmed its existence and asked for your opinion about a possible name?


    Sources:
    Swedes claim confirmation of element 115 : Nature News Blog
    Barber, R.C. et al. (2011), "Discovery of the elements with atomic numbers greater than or equal to 113 (IUPAC Technical Report)", Pure Appl. Chem. 83(7), p. 1489


    PS: The research has yet to be published in Physics Review Letters.
    Smoergedoergeboergium?


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    Quote Originally Posted by exchemist View Post
    Smoergedoergeboergium?

    And how are you going to abbreviate that?

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    Joking I'd go for Adamantium (Ad) for the X-men (and 80's pop) afficianados, or Darwinium (Du) (it would p*** off the creationists).

    More seriously: Paulium (Pl) or Heisenbergium (Hi)

    Heisenbergium is a name that I can agree with. Even the abbreviation is friendly.
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    Dywyddyrium, of course.
    Or even Lazar-is-now-proved-to-a-liar-ium.
    But I'm loathe to perpetuate the name of any crank... he doesn't deserve the public recognition.

    Then again following a recent trend (bees, jellyfish) how about Bazingium?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDemon View Post
    I've just been for a walk to the coffee bar and passed a guy wearing a T-shirt with Heisenberg on the front.
    I wonder how you buy one of those?

    Me: Do you have any Heisenberg T-shirts in medium?
    Assistant: Yes, but I don't know where they are.

    Or:
    Me: Are the Heisenberg Ts on that rack?
    Assistant: Yes, but they're unlabeled for size.
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    Obamium- after all he claims everything else- even got a Nobel for things he is GOING to do
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    Flubber.

    Or maybe Unobtanium.

    No, better yet: Leeloo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDemon View Post
    After the nonsense of the last few days:

    AETHER! *Gets coat*

    IUPAC should not name it the element of God.
    Remember the last time when monotheists were jumping in their seats when physicists "found" a Higgs boson at the LHC?
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    Odium or Zombium or Xecứuthươngium

    All from: 115 (number) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Howthehelldidthatgetthereium? Ho? (Question mark obligatory).
    Surprisium! S!.
    Or, along the lines of Terry Pratchett, Iumiumium.

    Which has the added advantage of increasing the likelihood of students following a career in chemistry when they hear their forebears talking, especially in the canteen - it just makes a day in lab sound much more appealing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDemon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Howthehelldidthatgetthereium? Ho? (Question mark obligatory).
    Might be confused with Holmium (Ho - no ?) If we're now allowed 3 character atomic symbols how about WTF

    Tungstentriflyl?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cogito Ergo Sum View Post
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    Smoergedoergeboergium?

    And how are you going to abbreviate that?
    Oh, I think "Sv" (for "Sverige"), just to bugger everyone up a bit, as there seems to be a long and honourable tradition of doing this in selecting symbols for elements.
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    Maybe it should be named after Ytterby, just to add to the confusion (after yttrium, erbium, terbium and ytterbium).
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    I was going to suggest 'Hydrogen' as the new name - but I found out something interesting instead:

    "An earlier name for [hydrogen] in English was Cavendish's inflammable air (1767)."
    - which is almost cute.
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    How about "Itsgoneagainium".
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    How about Belgium?
    Abbreviation: Bl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cogito Ergo Sum View Post
    How about Belgium?
    Abbreviation: Bl.
    Belgium is the rudest word in the Universe
    Belgium - Hitchhikers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    How dare you!

    I have reported you for using highly offensive language.
    tbh, I would expect a permaban.
    You disgust me.

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    I like the sound of Iumiumite. I would settle for Iumium.
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    I vote for Unobtainium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    Maybe it should be named after Ytterby, just to add to the confusion (after yttrium, erbium, terbium and ytterbium).
    Brilliant!

    So let's see, perhaps Tterbium, with symbol By, or Rbium, with symbol Tt. That should give hell to generations of students to come, heh, heh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDemon View Post
    "T'terberium"

    But that's just what they call Terbium in Yorkshire when looking at t'periodic table.
    Aye, 'appen they do, lad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
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    How about Belgium?
    Abbreviation: Bl.
    Belgium is the rudest word in the Universe
    Belgium - Hitchhikers

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