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  1. #1 How did we get Boron ?? 
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    I am talking about the original Creation of this Element.

    I know - the Standard Answer is that it is produced by Cosmic Ray Spallation.

    However - in an Alternate World - we need Megatonnages of Boron, to make Boron Carbonitride for Armour on all of our Space Warships.
    Supplies of this are getting rather rare for our purposes - even with Mining the Asteroid Belt of Sol, even the Mining of Asteroid Belts in five other Star Systems is not producing enough of it, or easily enough.

    So - what Elements could we expose to Cosmic Rays - in order to create a lot more Boron ??

    Would this work if we put a lot of the "right" material in Close Orbit around a Neutron Star ??
    I have one in mind - which would do the job quite well, IF the Emissions from a Neutron Star would do it.


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    Well mummy and daddy rubbed their tummies together and ...

    Oh sorry, I thought you said "born".

    Seriously, I didn't know this. A little more info here: Q & A: Where does the element Boron come from? | Department of Physics | University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign


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    Didn't Boron start out as a sketch on the BBC?

    Whoops, no, that was Borat.
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    The Boron come from Kingdom End.

    No wait, that's X3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    Well mummy and daddy rubbed their tummies together and ...

    Oh sorry, I thought you said "born".

    Seriously, I didn't know this. A little more info here: Q & A: Where does the element Boron come from? | Department of Physics | University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
    Thanks for the Link - it seems that we get the Boron, Lithium and Byrellium - from Cosmic Spallation of Carbon and Oxygen.

    So - we are gonna put several Megatonnes of Dry Ice ( frozen CO2 ) into orbit around the Neutron Star - in very small peices. Perhaps Tetratonnes.
    Cosmic Ray Spallation is a surfce effect - where Elements on the surface are converted by these Impacts of Interstellar Atomic Particles in "Cosmic Rays".
    This seems to happen more in interstellar dust clouds ( Nebulae ) than on the surface of Planets, Moons or Asteroids - so, we will be making the pieces as small as possible, to maximise the surface effects. Creating a Dry Ice orbiting "Nebula" around the Neutron Star.
    Wait about 12 Months - then do an analysis of the micro-asteroids, to see if they have changed much.

    Boron is essential for making our Boron Carbonitride Armour.
    Beryllium is useful for making the special "high stretch" High-Tensile Alloys.
    Lithium is useful for making Syhthetic Lithium-based Greases ( Lubrication ).

    Seems like a good Project for us to undertake.
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