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    I was thinking about this with my friend and his dad (a chemist) a while back and we were arguing how many possible combinations there are to make synthetic elements. We agreed that with advanced nuclear technology it could be possible to take any number of electrons, neutrons, and protons and blast them together to form a new element. Then we saw that many "new" elements created would just be isotopes of existing ones. But I thought that if we took more and more electrons, nwutrons, and protons and kept adding them we could get an infinite number of elements. How far can we go?


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    not so sure about the old nuclear chemistry. but i think if we did do that. we wouldnt get far. as my understanding goes, they would be too unstable to exist. but i cant be sure.


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    theoreticly we could create any element. but for how long they exist is another question, ununquadium for exemple live long enough to accumilate in greater amounts
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    I was thinking about this with my friend and his dad (a chemist) a while back and we were arguing how many possible combinations there are to make synthetic elements. We agreed that with advanced nuclear technology it could be possible to take any number of electrons, neutrons, and protons and blast them together to form a new element. Then we saw that many "new" elements created would just be isotopes of existing ones. But I thought that if we took more and more electrons, nwutrons, and protons and kept adding them we could get an infinite number of elements. How far can we go?
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    The theoretical limits are immense but the problem is the lack of technology. As you increase the atomic number, the half lives decrease exponentially so the problem lies not only in the technology to create heavier elements but more importantly to detect them.
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    thats not entirely true, it goes shorter and shorter but around ununquadium(114) it gets more stable again, some say 3 sec, others 30. and its a bit stable around it then it drops significanly again and its thought taht 118 will increase in halflife again. its also thought that when the neutron number is right the element is once again even more stable (114/118 is the golden proton numbers). maybe both of this are compeltly stable with the right neutrons
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    I think there's 28 more elements that will take us across 5g, which is as far as I know all that is thought to be mathematically possible at this point.

    28 seems low to me right now. I'll have to go back and look at it again.
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    That's interesting. So according to Zelos, we could find the right neutron to proton ratio and it would be stable enough to exist.
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    yes, it was a theory but the fact that 114 is more stable than those before and after shows that the theory have some validness. And that was only proton number, when we get the right neutron number it will be interesting
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    Many more elements. Some of them might be useful. One question: at that level, are they all radioactive?
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