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    Does gold silver water really have healing capabilities?


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    Im pretty sure gold and silver has no real healing abilities.

    It could maybe work as a placebo-effect for delusional people that are into this crap New Age - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    That is by psychologically (and falsely) believing in it - making them happy and somewhat healthier - due to thinking it actually works. But scientifically? I doubt it.


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    I have no idea what gold silver water is, but silver has been in use medicinally for a very long time. It's bioactive and used as an antiseptic.

    Other than that, I've never heard of gold being used in medicine. Sounds like the healing power of pyramids to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raziell View Post
    It could maybe work as a placebo-effect for delusional people
    The placebo effect is not for "delusional people". It works even if you know about the placebo effect.
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    Is not the mixture of gold and silver good at killing germs in the body?
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    Silver can be. Gold is pretty much inert as far as I know. There appear to be websites that talk about something called "monatomic gold" or something. This is meaningless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeLord View Post
    Is not the mixture of gold and silver good at killing germs in the body?
    I already answered this.

    Adding gold seems like a way to make a phony alternative medicine sound more appealing. After all, gold is awesome, right?
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    As Flick mentioned, silver has been in use for a while and is a well established bacterial disrupter (not a technical term, I just like how it sounds). And research is still being done on silver and bacteria. But you should think of this like bleach. Bleach kills bacteria, but you wouldn't want to drink it! Here is a good source for understanding what you're dealing with in silver: Colloidal Silver | NCCAM. Now gold on the other hand is not as well understood yet, in terms of potential uses in medicine. In bulk form it is mainly inert, but it behaves differently in nano form. There is some evidence that it relives arthritic pain in rats and it is being studied for a host of other possible uses (e.g. Nanogold-polyaniline-nanogold microspheres-fu... [Anal Chim Acta. 2012] - PubMed - NCBI). But there is also evidence that it may be harmful, depending on size of the molecules (e.g. Assessment of the In Vivo Toxicity of Gold Nanoparticles - Nano Archive) and the size differences are minute--so small they are hard to imagine for a layperson. SO personally I would avoid taking any colloidal gold until the effects are better researched and understood. And I would absolutely not take silver internally.
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    Yeah, the colloidal silver slightly disrupts the cellular wall, which can cause lysing of the cell, while dividing. It somehow has no effect on eukaryotal cells. Probably due to the sheer size, or it's lack in division (speed of it).

    A friend of mine OWNS the company who makes colloidal silver. So i'll just end my statement right here before i turn biased ,,
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    I know what he is talking about. He is speaking or ORME. Orbitally Rearranged Monatomic Elements. There is what we may as well call a cult, or pseudoscience regarding gold and other transitional elements. These elements can be pushed to what is called a 4:3 superspin of the nuclei. There are those who believe and claim they have proven that ORME-Gold is the mana that God gave his people.

    It would be nice to believe, but there is no scientific evidence this is real.
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    Thanks for sharing that. I suspected the idea was rooted in crazy, glad you could clarify.
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    Interesting Cobra, I hadn't heard of that. To be fair, there is no evidence the OP is referring to this ORME business as opposed to a more mundane colloidal preparation of silver and/or gold. (At least no evidence I have seen!) But yes, there are certainly many flavors of uninformed and mislead pseudoscience. This is not usually a big deal, but when it comes to people's health I get a little more concerned. Especially because it is often intentional deception on the part of the person selling the miracle cure.
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