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  1. #1 America as a micro-model of globalization. 
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    At the end of the revolutionary war, the USA was basically just 13 small countries that had been united by the Continental Congress to carry out a combined war effort against Britain. Each had its own government, and to some degree its own unique culture, and had operated more or less autonomously from each other for most of their histories. The Articles of Confederation held them together in case there was another war, but it really wasn't until the Constitution was ratified that anyone could be sure there was going to be a real country.

    So, lets look at what that created.

    1) - There were to be no tariffs between states.

    2) - The states were free to regulate their own economies.

    3) - The Federal Government dealt in foreign matters (such as tariffs against foreign goods)

    4) - Both states and government had the power to tax and spend, though states couldn't benefit from tariffs.

    5) - The Federal Government had the power to regulate "interstate commerce", a power that was initially pretty week, but got expanded a great deal later on under Roosevelt following the Great Depression.

    The reason I liken the early USA to modern globalization is because conditions #1 and #2 are met under the globalization. #3 is irrelevant because there are no foreign matters (insofar as no alien cultures have yet contacted the Earth with any offer to engage in mutual trade arrangements.)

    What the global economy is missing is #4, and especially #5. So the question is: could the early USA have thrived without those last two conditions? Would interstate trade have been successful without the Federal Government to coordinate it? Also, with the differences in transportation (because the cost of transportation acted like a tariff to some degree before modern technology made it easier). If the modern USA had closed borders (like how planet Earth has closed borders with respect to aliens) would the internal economy be able to get along without Federal Regulation?


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    It might be possible with a lot of negatives and positives to make it look like a bad decision. There will be unequal distribution of resources among the member states. Plus they will be prone to attack etc. from a stronger state to encroach upon their assets. Cost of resources may rise. Like some states may levy high taxes over monopolistic resources.

    To sum things up some states will become king while others can become beggars like third world countries...


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    And yet it didn't happen. So the question becomes: why? For an analogy with globalization, we can leave out the problem of defense (unlikely that aliens will invade.)

    The states had no tariffs, were free to regulate their own economies as they saw fit, and still thrived economically. However, with interstate commerce opening the door for Federal Regulation, they all had to abide by a common minimum ruleset, which they could then improve upon if they wanted to, or leave at the Federal floor. Trouble with globalization is who's creating the floor?
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    still thrived economically.
    Not really true. There economies were highly variable from year to year and vulnerable to the vagaries of weather.
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    Well, by the early 1940's the USA's per capita GDP was at least 6 times that of the world GDP. That's kind of what I'm getting at. Let me put it in perspective.






    I think it's safe to say the system of having open borders between states was working. However, I don't think the push toward free trade, open-borders, etc with the rest of the world has been working out for us. In theory, we buy more from them and they buy more from us, which balances out. In practice, this is what really has happened:

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    Without federal property ownership, there were a lot of violent and confusing border disputes. Also, one of the primary reasons the articles were replaced was because there were different currencies amongst the states, and they were individually troubled at resolving their own debts. The articles were modeled heavily on the rules of the Iriquois Confederacy, I don't think we could have seen a thriving nation with the type of sovereignty that causes division. The Constitution, in my opinion, was a fantastic model for the structure of a republic. Sadly, it was just a few short years after ratification before its credibility was slashed by the Alien & Sedition Acts
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    No Micro Model it is a single country and that is mater
    Single federal army and single currency
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    it is just economic cooperation, which has existed since economies existed.

    globalization is cooperation between countries of the world.
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