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  1. #1 New economics rule the world 
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    New economy stops crisis and fixes poverty around the globe.


    I am Leon and I have this plan with the world. I say change the economic system, not to communism, not to capitalism, no better, to Leonism. What is Leonism. Let me tell you.

    Adopting nations is the keystone lets all join together and break the boundaries. All nations should unite to one nation called earth. So all countries are now one big country . So one government that reaches over the whole world.

    Then I say make a machine that presses unique money. The Leon. With that machine the only worldgovernment is unlimited rich. Infinite rich. But if the economic system stays the same inflation will rise cause the government is creating new money and prices will increase. So we have to change the system to prevent inflation. That means keeping salary and prices at one level and that for ever. So the government controls the prices and the wages and keeps them infinite on the same level so inflation wont occur. There is also an other method for preventing to inflation, that I will discuss later.

    Idiots will think, money is worth its value, because its exchangeable in gold. And the gold is worthy cause its unique. Now we reached the question what it is that makes something valuable. It has to be unique. So is the money as unique as the gold, because the gold and the money, the Leon, cannot be copied. The money of course is way to difficult to make illegal copies.

    So now the money has its value and the prices are kept on the same level. Now the government can invest in many poor parts of the world. If the government is smart enough to pay only a selective group of millionaires that own companies that dig for resources and those who ownes companies that makes those resources into end products, then the government prevents leaking money to other members of society. Only that selective group of millionaires. Why only those millionaires?

    That is because today’s economy and the Leonistic economy have a money flow from consumer to millionaire. The flow stops in the pocket of the millionaire. So bringing the money direct to the millionaire brings not even the most minor of fluctuation in the economy. He only gets richer, but he has enough and is already happy. Making him more happy is about rescuing the poor on the planet. The moneyflow these days go from millionair to employee and the employee buys goods from the millionair, so theres a circle in the moneyflow. That circle stays the same if the new economics begin. So millionaires pays his employees usual wages and sets them to build in Afrika and other poor countries. And nothing happens to simple economics. Nothing fluctuates the economy.

    Government is endless rich so they can invest where they want. They can even start own businesses. Businesses from sources to end product. They can pay social welfare around the world, to all people who never had welfare before.

    If the prices of sources or raw materials rice, the government can buy the companies that dig for those sources. Or they can buy the sources direct from the owner, the millionaire and make him richer and sell the sources for a lower set price to the factory’s that needs those sources. You see the infinite rich government can do anything. The millionaire cannot buy the world. The government rules and can set boundaries to the greed of the millionaire by telling him not to buy that much.

    So the government can also buy all companies around the world and pay all working people wages and their wages go back to the government because the working man must buy from the government who possesses every single company over the world and the money flow circle is closed. That economy can last for ages.

    To prevent inflation the government also can build own shops and companies that sells for lower prices when other shops rises their prices. So they are strong competitors to the other shops when the system of market economy is still running. So market economy can still being runned, but the government has to have own shops to compete.

    If western shopowners are complaining that prices used to be lower then they are now, because for example, the prices of cloths will rise, because people in Afrika want to have honest income sharing the worlds economy, then the government can set the price of the clothing as it was and pay the clothing trader in Afrika a subsidy that sets his income equal to others in the world. Africa will soon join the welfare of the western society.

    Zimbabwe is a country that already is pressing money. That wont help, unless they have all necessary resources so that they can exist independant from all other nations. Then the government has to pay only a selective group of millionairs. Only millionairs get richer and can expand their companies to make the economy grow. Now can Zimbabwe make all needed products, cauze its independant from other nations. Its the millionairs that needs to be payed.

    This is what I want to tell the world.


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    After this world economy recession, I think it will establish a new business rule.


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    Quite seriously, this is ridiculous. I support the concept of one nation in charge of all mankind and Earth, but the economics you're proposing are exceedingly ridiculous.

    That is because today’s economy and the Leonistic economy have a money flow from consumer to millionaire. The flow stops in the pocket of the millionaire. So bringing the money direct to the millionaire brings not even the most minor of fluctuation in the economy. He only gets richer, but he has enough and is already happy.
    So you seriously think that the millionaire wouldn't want to invest in even more projects to get even more money?

    So the government is infinitely rich, and controls prices and wages. This is extraordinarily similar to communism, especially the one practised in Russia until the collapse of the soviet Union. Bear in mind that Russia ultimately collapsed, due to economic stagnation and political complications.

    Idiots will think, money is worth its value, because its exchangeable in gold. And the gold is worthy cause its unique. Now we reached the question what it is that makes something valuable. It has to be unique. So is the money as unique as the gold, because the gold and the money, the Leon, cannot be copied. The money of course is way to difficult to remake illegal copies.
    I think you don't know what paper money represents. It represents a promise to the holder to exchange the sum of the value written on the bill for its equivalent worth in gold. If there is no gold, the money is worthless, because what are you going to exchange it for? And how do you propose to make the money impossiblee to forge?

    In order to actually put your idea in practise, first think of a way to get nations together. Otherwise, your entire idea collapses. It works, but the first step is an impossibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liongold
    I think you don't know what paper money represents. It represents a promise to the holder to exchange the sum of the value written on the bill for its equivalent worth in gold.
    "The gold standard was abolished" by Richard Nixon. I.e. the US just swindled all its citizens and the whole world (where many dollars are) pretty painlessly. The dollar now floats, except that a promise by the OPEC linchpin to sell oil only for US dollars means dollars are effectively redeemable worldwide for oil. Thus countries prove their stability to bankers by holding large reserves of US dollars. And oil's arguably a better standard than gold.

    Maybe the Leon could redeem something else? Just to toss out a few:

    Hours?

    Hectares?

    Travel permits?
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    Liongold says
    So you seriously think that the millionaire wouldn't want to invest in even more projects to get even more money?
    Let them grow ritcher. The more project the better for all nations. The government wants to make sure that the millionairs dont go buying too much land etc. That belongs to government.

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    So the government is infinitely rich, and controls prices and wages. This is extraordinarily similar to communism, especially the one practised in Russia until the collapse of the soviet Union. Bear in mind that Russia ultimately collapsed, due to economic stagnation and political complications.
    The Russians were extreme communistic. Everything owned by the gouvernment is not the way. I think that everybody must have different wages. A doktor more the others. Sovjetunie collapsed, because they had not all the resources, and their technology was so bad that products of them were useless.Yet the russians had to buy maybe sources from other countries in which the roebel was worthless, because the roebel was only for outdated russian products. Worthless roebel so.

    But if the world joins together, then the world has all recourses. They set price and wage to descent levels. Afrika then can join the west, because there will be investments and all not working can have social wellfare.

    Liongold says :
    I think you don't know what paper money represents. It represents a promise to the holder to exchange the sum of the value written on the bill for its equivalent worth in gold. If there is no gold, the money is worthless, because what are you going to exchange it for? And how do you propose to make the money impossiblee to forge?
    Gold is worthfull, because it is unique. So also can be that paper worth its amount. You can buy anything with it, so its a new exchangable means that cannot be falsified, because its very difficult to falsify money. So the money is yet a unique as the gold. And the machine makes gold.

    Its like the game monopoly. The bank has all the money and the players have real money, without goldreserves, and with that money, worthfull money, they can buy streets, houses, hotels. And everytime passing start, the players get their payment. And thats comparible with one government that pays their employees. We can also maintain a market economy which can control prices and wages with two ways of setting the prices, by building everywere gouvernment shops that big time can compete with partuclair stores. A other way is that gouvernment sets the prices and wages forever on a same level. Thank you for your attention.




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    The Russians were extreme communistic. Everything owned by the gouvernment is not the way. I think that everybody must have different wages. A doktor more the others.
    Which was what the Russians practised. People were paid based on their needs, though, not just by their profession. A cobbler with seven children could be paid more than a doctor with no children.

    But if the world joins together, then the world has all recourses. They set price and wage to descent levels. Afrika then can join the west, because there will be investments and all not working can have social wellfare
    If! The dreaded if! If implies only possibility, never actual happenstance. Your scheme would work IF the world came together. Your idea is extraordinarily similar to global communism, the idea that communism may only work propoerly if it was applied globally, instead of just in countries. It works, yes, but only IF the nations came together.

    Sovjetunie collapsed, because they had not all the resources, and their technology was so bad that products of them were useless.
    I must disagree with you there. Russia was the second country in the world to possess nuclear weapons, and the first to begin the space race. In just a few years after the Russian Revolution, production and supply increased by 100%. I do not think Russian technology could be classified as bad, in that case.

    Yet the russians had to buy maybe sources from other countries in which the roebel was worthless, because the roebel was only for outdated russian products. Worthless roebel so.
    The ruble collapsed only after the Soviet Union fell.

    Its like the game monopoly. The bank has all the money and the players have real money, without goldreserves, and with that money, worthfull money, they can buy streets, houses, hotels. And everytime passing start, the players get their payment. And thats comparible with one government that pays their employees. We can also maintain a market economy which can control prices and wages with two ways of setting the prices, by building everywere gouvernment shops that big time can compete with partuclair stores. A other way is that gouvernment sets the prices and wages forever on a same level. Thank you for your attention.
    Well that would be alright if we were playing monopoly. Since we are not, I think I should remind you that the value of money in the gold standard rose and fell in accordance with the price of gold. Not because gold was unique, but because gold was sold at different prices at different times. Paper is hardly unique.
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    So it works and now the whole world has to cry for Afrika.

    There's people in Afrika in war chopped of both arms. Charles Tailor did that, don't let that happen again.
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    So it works and now the whole world has to cry for Afrika.

    There's people in Afrika in war chopped of both arms. Charles Tailor did that, don't let that happen again.
    Yes. But, in order for your idea to work, you must first achieve the impossible: convince the world to unite.
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    Hey Leon, I know you from other fora. It looks like they aren`t agreeing with you in America either.

    Sorry for this off-topic reaction.

    @ Liongold: He has to do an even more difficult task: Convincing all milionairs to selflessly invest in the human race. (In what Leon, the supreme leader, thinks what is best for the human race.) And from what I know from dutch fora his system looks more like communism because the supreme leader (okay that might not be Leon I might have been quick to assume that) appoints the millionairs wich are then selfless investers. So the millionairs are more like wise distributers of money. But how can you ever get enough people from who you are sure that they will not be corrupted by the power they get? (How do you get these millionairs to be so selfless?)
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    Ah, thank you very much, Gijs. Yes, Leonism in theory is good enough, but in practice, it lacks a certain element, don't you think? :wink:

    Anyway, thanks for clarifying this.
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    They are agreeing Gijs, but the only problem is to unite the world as one. But thats not difficult, just elect world government with ministers representing all countries. So all nations share influence in worldpolitics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leon23
    I am Leon and I have this plan with the world. This plan requires little thinking with great impact. I say change the economic system, not to communism, not to capitalism, no better, to Leonism. What is Leonism. Let me tell you.

    Adopting nations is the keystone lets all join together and break the boundaries. All nations should unite to one nation called earth. So all countries are now one big country . So one government that reaches over the whole world.

    Then I say make a machine that presses unique money. The Leon. With that machine the only worldgovernment is unlimited rich. Infinite rich. But if the economic system stays the same inflation will rise cause the government is creating new money and prices will increase. So we have to change the system to prevent inflation. That means keeping salary and prices at one level and that for ever. So the government controls the prices and the wages and keeps them infinite on the same level so inflation wont occur. There is also an other method for preventing to inflation, that I will discuss later.

    Idiots will think, money is worth its value, because its exchangeable in gold. And the gold is worthy cause its unique. Now we reached the question what it is that makes something valuable. It has to be unique. So is the money as unique as the gold, because the gold and the money, the Leon, cannot be copied. The money of course is way to difficult to remake illegal copies.

    So now the money has its value and the prices are kept on the same level. Now the government can invest in many poor parts of the world. If the government is smart enough to pay only the millionaires that are already too rich, then the government prevents leaking money to other members of society. Only the millionaires. Why only the millionaires?

    That is because today’s economy and the Leonistic economy have a money flow from consumer to millionaire. The flow stops in the pocket of the millionaire. So bringing the money direct to the millionaire brings not even the most minor of fluctuation in the economy. He only gets richer, but he has enough and is already happy. Making him more happy is about rescuing the poor on the planet. So millionaires pays his employees usual wages and sets them to build in Afrika and other poor countries. And nothing happens to simple economics. Nothing fluctuates the economy.

    Government is endless rich so they can invest where they want. They can even start own businesses. Businesses from sources to end product. They can pay social welfare around the world, to all people who never had welfare before.

    If the prices of sources or raw materials rice, the government can buy the companies that dig for those sources. Or they can buy the sources direct from the owner, the millionaire and make him richer and sell the sources for a lower set price to the factory’s that needs those sources. You see the infinite rich government can do anything. The millionaire cannot buy the world. The government rules and can set boundaries to the greed of the millionaire by telling him not to buy that much.

    So the government can also buy all companies around the world and pay all working people wages and their wages go back to the government because the working man must buy from the government who possesses every single company over the world and the money flow circle is closed. That economy can last for ages.

    To prevent inflation the government also can build own shops and companies that sells for lower prices when other shops rises their prices. So they are strong competitors to the other shops when the system of market economy is still running. So market economy can still being runned, but the government has to have own shops to compete.

    If shopowners are complaining that prices used to be lower then they are now, because for example, the prices of cloths will rise, because people in Afrika want to have honest income sharing the worlds economy, then the government can set the price of the clothing as it was and pay the clothing trader a subsidy that sets his income equal to others in the world. Africa will soon join the welfare of the western society.

    This is what I want to tell the world.


    Greetings,


    Leon.[img][/img]
    Wow, looks like someone skipped economics 101. Within 1 year of your system operating, the world would be in a state of hyper inflation worse then Zimbabwe.
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    Not true. Prices and wages are controlled.
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    Am i right?
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    So im right.
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