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  1. #1 Evolution Question 
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    If evolution is correct how come there are no signs of primates evolving into higher intelligent creatures or why isnt`t there something more between us and them, some other species.
    Why did after evolution of man monkeys stoped and just be monkeys for all the time?
    This is the question my friend asked me and I don`t know what to answer.
    Someone please?

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    The ancestor of present-day primates looked different than present day primates - In other words if your friend thinks there should be something 'between' a bonobo and a human, for example, then your friend is starting with the wrong understanding of the series of events.

    As far as intermediate fossils, EVERY fossil is an intermediate 'form' (think about it) and the gaps become smaller every year. Ironically, they also become more numerous, as the discovery of each new fossil divides a large gap into two smaller gaps.


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    Fossils aren't easy to come by because they need a whole lot of the right cirumstances to fossilize. These include quick burial and mineralization followed by the fossil slowly turning to stone. Once anthropologists find an area that is ripe in fossils they know they may find more fossils in that area of the same type because the circumstances in that area at that time were right for fossilization.

    There are apes and monkeys and humans alive today because man didn't evolve from apes. Man, apes, monkeys, lemurs and other types of animals such as that evolved from a related animal. When that historical animal went through different evironmental changes that animal evolved while the same animal that stayed in the same type of environment didn't evolve in the same way.

    It is thought man evolved in Africa from the same common ancestor as monkeys. This is when that common ancestor lived in the trees, swinging from branch to branch. Eventually the environment of that area went through desertification. There weren't as many trees so some of this common ancestor had to live in caves and go underground. Eventually, given enough time, this common ancestor evolved to walk upright. However the area around the Nile didn't go through desertification because the soils around that area are very fertile due to the, I believe, yearly flooding of the river. The common ancestor that stayed in that area didn't go through the same evolution that the common ancestor did that needed to change it's living conditions to live underground. This is how man became bipedal.

    With bipedalism man didn't have to use it's hands for walking and he could use it for other things. He began to use tools more and, with his increased use of tools, his brain began to get bigger.
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    If evolution is correct how come there are no signs of primates evolving into higher intelligent creatures
    Two problems here:

    1. You make the assumption that: higher intelligence is the aim of evolution.

    No. Evolution, in this case, is simply natural selection, which says that the ones who are fit enough to survive, will survive. The fact that cockroaches survive for millions of year without development of higher intelligence proves that intelligence is just one of the many adaptations a specie can adopt, and is in no way the "final goal" of evolution.

    2. How do you define "sign"?

    If you mean something like a "transition state" between primates and the "higher intelligent creatures", then by definition, every lifeform you see now is in this state of "transition state", assuming they are constantly evolving, albeit with very slight modifications. So what sign are you exactly looking for?


    or why isnt`t there something more between us and them, some other species.
    You're assuming that Man evolved from monkey in a linear manner, but in fact if you look at the Tree of Life, modern monkeys and homo sapiens are at the end of two separate evolution branches:


    Darwin's Tree of Life as proposed in his "Origin of Life".

    It just means that monkey and man shares a common ancestor, and then the difference between them got larger and larger until we become two different species. You're not going to find something between these discrete branches.

    Why did after evolution of man monkeys stoped and just be monkeys for all the time?
    Monkeys evolved from their ancestors, which at one time is the same ancestor as us homo sapien. They are not "just monkeys" for all the time so as to speak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kris12
    If evolution is correct how come there are no signs of primates evolving into higher intelligent creatures
    I have good hope that the primate speces Homo sapiens will one day radiate into an intelligent species.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spuriousmonkey
    Quote Originally Posted by kris12
    If evolution is correct how come there are no signs of primates evolving into higher intelligent creatures
    I have good hope that the primate speces Homo sapiens will one day radiate into an intelligent species.
    let's hope.
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    Thank you all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BumFluff
    Quote Originally Posted by spuriousmonkey
    Quote Originally Posted by kris12
    If evolution is correct how come there are no signs of primates evolving into higher intelligent creatures
    I have good hope that the primate speces Homo sapiens will one day radiate into an intelligent species.
    let's hope.
    As long as we realize that this intelligent species isn't going to be us for technical reasons.
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