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    Hello again guys,
    If two people have the exact same day to day interactions and the exact same things happen to them each day in there childhood....when they grow up do you think they will have the same future? Ive been thinking about this.....I think there is a name for this type of science.....anyway please reply back.....BYE!


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    ...what?
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    just a question
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod1118 View Post
    Hello again guys,
    If two people have the exact same day to day interactions and the exact same things happen to them each day in there childhood....when they grow up do you think they will have the same future? Ive been thinking about this.....I think there is a name for this type of science.....anyway please reply back.....BYE!
    The past has no influence on the future throw of the dice. So no matter how similar they were in the past will not determine the future. I learned that from gambling.
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    It's not possible to have "the exact same day to day interactions" or "the exact same things happen to them each day in there childhood".
    Small variations can lead to immense differences.
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    Each person perceives and comprehends what they experience in a manner that is unique to themselves. Even the question is not accurate because no two persons occupy the identical space and time. That small difference in inches/centimeters allows for an immense potential of difference, as Dywyddyr has stated.

    As one example, think of personal computers. Each one is made as close to identical as possible, using very accurate machinery, yet there will be a significant number of these that are not 'identical' and that is with as many parameters precisely controlled as is technologically possible. From the moment each is switched on, every computer has a different 'future' and it is the same with humans, as I see it.

    (Ah, I see that you give your age as 14, and that is an age of evolving curiosity and often unusual ponders.)
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    Just to expand.
    Apart from any other factors having the "exact same day to day interactions" is impossible because the participants are human: they'll learn with/ from each encounter. And thereby anticipate, modify and create shortcuts in those encounters.
    The only way it would be remotely possible is for both to have no memory whatsoever of previous encounters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Just to expand.
    Apart from any other factors having the "exact same day to day interactions" is impossible because the participants are human: they'll learn with/ from each encounter. And thereby anticipate, modify and create shortcuts in those encounters.
    The only way it would be remotely possible is for both to have no memory whatsoever of previous encounters.
    It is not impossible..

    Exactly the same leaves no room for chance, only probabilities. And if repeated enough, you will have exactly the same result at some point. At least, in quantum mechanics. But this will be the same in a biological setup, however slightly lower odds, so it will take more time to observe exactly the same happening.

    For dywyddyr; with exactly the same, i mean, the same atoms, the same state of those atoms, and the same collection of those atoms. The same spot of electrons and the same excitation and refraction of photons. This takes the theory of which the universe repeats itself, or having an infinite number of possible futures presents and pasts into consideration.

    If the universe is finite, and no other alternative dimensions exist, the universe did begin, but will not reignite, in which case you will never, ever have a duplicate of anything anywhere in the universe. Not even two the same grains of sand, or atoms.
    Growing up, i marveled at star-trek's science, and ignored the perfect society. Now, i try to ignore their science, and marvel at the society.

    Imagine, being able to create matter out of thin air, and not coming up with using drones for boarding hostile ships. Or using drones to defend your own ship. Heck, using drones to block energy attacks, counterattack or for surveillance. Unless, of course, they are nano-machines in your blood, which is a billion times more complex..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zwolver View Post
    It is not impossible.. etc
    Like I said:
    Apart from any other factors having the "exact same day to day interactions" is impossible because the participants are human: they'll learn with/ from each encounter. And thereby anticipate, modify and create shortcuts in those encounters.
    The only way it would be remotely possible is for both to have no memory whatsoever of previous encounters.


    You'd have to have the weather exactly the same, all other phenomena the same etc etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dywyddyr View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Zwolver View Post
    It is not impossible.. etc
    Like I said:
    Apart from any other factors having the "exact same day to day interactions" is impossible because the participants are human: they'll learn with/ from each encounter. And thereby anticipate, modify and create shortcuts in those encounters.
    The only way it would be remotely possible is for both to have no memory whatsoever of previous encounters.


    You'd have to have the weather exactly the same, all other phenomena the same etc etc.
    That's why I posted what I did but it was removed. I'd thought that the OP would have used common sense when they posted but , to me, they didn't even bother to try. To bad my post was removed because it was put there trying to tell the OP that they were very wrong in even thnking that way about that.
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