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    Do you ever meet men who are thin yet strong? I mean lacking in muscles, but able to undertake manual labour.

    How can strength be explained in people who do not have large muscles?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ultimatesceptic View Post
    Do you ever meet men who are thin yet strong? I mean lacking in muscles, but able to undertake manual labour.

    How can strength be explained in people who do not have large muscles?
    Easy, muscle strength is not dependent on muscle size, but rather on muscle density and composition.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ultimatesceptic View Post
    .... How can strength be explained in people who do not have large muscles?
    Drugs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan hunter View Post
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    .... How can strength be explained in people who do not have large muscles?
    Drugs?
    What drugs exactly?

    Also, muscle density may be important, but surely muscles have to exist before they can have any density.
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    Individuals who lack muscles have a technical name. We call them skeletons.

    Or, more precisely, I assumed that when you spoke about men without muscles you were speaking metaphorically. You appear to think that there are some men who lack any muscles. I trust, on reflection, you recognise that as seriously wrong idea.
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    I was using the language of appearance. I will admit to not being entirely clear on occasions.
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    Everyone has muscles even though you can't see them very well they are there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ultimatesceptic View Post
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    .... How can strength be explained in people who do not have large muscles?
    Drugs?
    What drugs exactly?

    Also, muscle density may be important, but surely muscles have to exist before they can have any density.
    As has already been noted, everyone has muscles, and as I noted in my first post, its not the visual size of the muscle that's important, but the composition and density that are key.
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    Sorry, I'm still puzzled. What is it that provides bulk? (I refer to the size of my muscles.) What is it that provides density?

    Are there any exercises which tend to increase bulk without affecting density? Are there any exercises which tend to increase density without affecting bulk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Individuals who lack muscles have a technical name. We call them skeletons.

    Or, more precisely, I assumed that when you spoke about men without muscles you were speaking metaphorically. You appear to think that there are some men who lack any muscles. I trust, on reflection, you recognise that as seriously wrong idea.
    He said lacking in muscles.. therefore if he has a threshold in mind of how much muscle a male homosapien should have on him... then it is definitely correct to say that males who fall short of this threshold, are lacking in muscle.

    Lacking, can also mean that something is in short supply. I don't want to pull up definitions but if you want to go there we can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Individuals who lack muscles have a technical name. We call them skeletons.
    Ha Ha. You made me laugh out loud, and I salute you for that.

    Are there any exercises which tend to increase bulk without affecting density? Are there any exercises which tend to increase density without affecting bulk?
    Warren Buffet and Arnold Swarzenegger became friends when relating common experiences of how to add bulk, IIRC. Mainly it was that the last few exercises were the most important. If you do not push yourself to the limits, then you are severely limiting any change. Buffet in particular was mainly interested in impressing the ladies with bulk.

    Here is a forum that seems to answer your questions.

    http://www.budoseek.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?19689-Muscle-Bulk-vs-Muscle-Density


    "There are several different kinds of strength and bulk/density don't necessarily correlate to strength. Take bodybuilders, they are training specifically for size. At bodybuilding competitions theres no point in which they are judged on how much weight they can do in a few particular lifts. They are only judged on aesthetics. Powerlifters are judged the opposite way, attention is paid to the weight done and aesthetics are not considered at all. While bodybuilders have the biggest muscles, power lifters move the most weight. If you can find related threads on here be sure to check them out and pay special attention to what jwinch says. Mr. Winch is the Budoseek! authority on all things strength and conditioning and there are countless members who will agree."
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