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    A number of exciting new studies are finding that cloning produces far superior immune-compatible embryonic stem cells to the standard iPSC-making method. They have longer telomeres and healthier mitochondria, and reprogram more efficiently. The studies find we need to take lessons from cloning, that is, via the human oocyte it uses, in creating pluripotent stem cells from ordinary somatic cells. See Bioscience Technology.com, "Cloning Making a Comeback," for an in-depth round-up piece, and Cell Stem Cell ("Enhanced Telomere Rejuvenation in Pluripotent Cells...") for a recent study. Another recent Cell Stem Cell study finding that we can now clone pluripotent cells from 35-and- 75-year-old humans has also added to the excitement. Cloning is coming back--to the lab, if not to the clinic!


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    I guest..
    If cloning system increase, it means that 'Dinosaurus' will comeback. Our world will be back as the long long time ago.
    However we can't blame the expert. They just work like they would be. I think iPSC system hasn't be used for human, it just be used for pig. Cause their anatomy, physiology, and structure are almost same with human.

    so mr. montrel..
    What do you think if the Cloning System ( CS ) increase extremely ? and how about CS considered as illegal system and we shouldn't developed it ?

    Thank you..


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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    I guest..
    If cloning system increase, it means that 'Dinosaurus' will comeback.
    I could respond to this with a few statements.

    1; False, DNA has a half life of about 500 years, so after about 50.000 years, nothing recognizable will be found. Let alone after 200.000.000 years. Perfectly preserved, all you would find are single nucleotides.

    2; False, Dinosaurs have never left. Technically Crocodiles are dinosaurs.

    3; False, even if a perfectly preserved strand of DNA could be found (which it can't) then without a mother cell which is similar to the dinosaur to put the DNA in, it would be impossible anyway. Even crocodiles are too different now to be of any use in this matter.

    4; False, cloning means using genetic materials from a living cell, to create a duplicate, without any form of cellular meiosis. What you mean, is revitalizing fossils. It's fun on PokemOn, but for the rest, impossible.

    I could go on btw..
    Growing up, i marveled at star-trek's science, and ignored the perfect society. Now, i try to ignore their science, and marvel at the society.

    Imagine, being able to create matter out of thin air, and not coming up with using drones for boarding hostile ships. Or using drones to defend your own ship. Heck, using drones to block energy attacks, counterattack or for surveillance. Unless, of course, they are nano-machines in your blood, which is a billion times more complex..
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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    If cloning system increase, it means that 'Dinosaurus' will comeback. Our world will be back as the long long time ago.
    No, you can't clone fossils.
    What do you think if the Cloning System ( CS ) increase extremely ?
    If it saves lives "extremely?" That would be great.
    and how about CS considered as illegal system and we shouldn't developed it ?
    Are you confusing cellular cloning with human cloning?
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    I've been cloning in my back yard. Trying to replace the removed invasive honeysuckle with dogwood.

    Has "cloning" become a dirty word?
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    Zwolver makes all relevant points nicely. Somatic cell nuclear transfer involves dedifferentiating cells to the stem cell state in a way that is far more physiologic than the iSTC method. So SCNT has a lot to teach stem cell scientosts, as the above articles and papers show. There are more papers, as well. Check them out on pubmed. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zwolver View Post

    2; False, Dinosaurs have never left. Technically Crocodiles are dinosaurs.
    As a note, crocodiles are not, and have never been considered dinosaurs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleoichneum View Post
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    2; False, Dinosaurs have never left. Technically Crocodiles are dinosaurs.
    As a note, crocodiles are not, and have never been considered dinosaurs...
    but chickens are, well sorta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleoichneum View Post
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    2; False, Dinosaurs have never left. Technically Crocodiles are dinosaurs.
    As a note, crocodiles are not, and have never been considered dinosaurs...
    So national geographic was wrong again? Can't i ever not use this not as a source not ever not again? Or not?
    Growing up, i marveled at star-trek's science, and ignored the perfect society. Now, i try to ignore their science, and marvel at the society.

    Imagine, being able to create matter out of thin air, and not coming up with using drones for boarding hostile ships. Or using drones to defend your own ship. Heck, using drones to block energy attacks, counterattack or for surveillance. Unless, of course, they are nano-machines in your blood, which is a billion times more complex..
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    For what it's worth:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zwolver View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zwolver View Post

    2; False, Dinosaurs have never left. Technically Crocodiles are dinosaurs.
    As a note, crocodiles are not, and have never been considered dinosaurs...
    So national geographic was wrong again? Can't i ever not use this not as a source not ever not again? Or not?
    What article in what issue said they were?? lol
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    Discovery has a kids education site that calls them dinosaurs, too.
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