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    Does the fact that in old age people generally slow down and move less cause their bodies to 'give up' maintaining joint condition and bone density ?

    Or Does the degradation come first, necessitating the reduced movement?

    I am curious, because I like to keep fit by jogging etc., which obviously keeps my heart-lung systems in good shape, and I wonder whether by subjecting my body to relatively gentle impact and movement, I am 'telling it' to maintain my joints and bone density too?



    Apologies if this has been discussed already - I am new here.



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    Hey there beer man- glad to see you posting, still.
    That is a good question and although I have speculative suspicions, I'll refrain from making a fool of myself and voicing them. Others on here can provide you something more substantial. Have you done any research on this, yet?

    There are more factors than a few that can weigh in on this one and while some people stay fit and maintain that well into old age, others stay fit and lose their fitness not long after they pass their prime. Even a solid answer, if available, may not be applicable to your body.

    I'd say you're doing well to stay fit no matter what happens in the future as you are fit now and that counts for something. I know 14 year olds that are wildly out of shape.


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    Use it or lose it is one of the fundamental rules of your body. It cant afford to and wont maintain anything on its own. One of the reasons old people start to slow down is environmental - eg people general downsize their homes as children move out but have accumulated more belongings resulting in less floor space. (US citizens may have trouble relating to this because you start off with so much more living space than we do here in the UK). Generally for our older people though, they cannot get up a decent walking stride in their house space and start moving around in small steps. Their bodies will not maintain supple hamstrings/leg muscles and lengthened tendons that would enable them to do (e.g.) the splits or even walk at a decent pace eventually. Assuming your underlying health is good your body will become whatever you train it to become to whatever age - deterioration in old age is not an inevitability despite many big pharma/cosmetic companies relying on us believing it is.
    "And we should consider every day lost on which we have not danced at least once. And we should call every truth false which was not accompanied by at least one laugh" Nietzsche.
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    Just an added thought - I am not suggesting you will never deteriorate, that would be silly but in the West here we seem to have started to accept old age as beginning in the 40's and that is just rot. There is no reason for mental and physical functions (given optimal conditions) to deteriorate before the age of 75/80 and some would say that is conservative. Keeping active is the key.......
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    Use it or lose it is one of the fundamental rules of your body. It cant afford to and wont maintain anything on its own.
    Hi Luci,

    Yes, that's pretty much my own 'home baked' philosophy - the human body is 'programmed' or has been selected to be hyper efficient, and will not maintain a system that it doesn't need - (including neural systems too, I reckon). Your thoughts about house size are very interesting, I had not thought about that. Keep active, as you say, is the key. I am always amazed that some people use their car as a raincoat - in other words they won't walk even 1/4 mile because it's raining.

    I was wondering about osteoporosis and rheumatism and wondered if they could be held at bay and if there was any scientific evidence that use of a system will ensure it's maintenance.


    Hi Neverfly,

    Yes I'm still around, and will be popping up with "101" type questions from time to time, but I don't have as much time on here as I would like.

    I think that keeping fit and active is one of the best things one can do for one's self, and I just couldn't let my body go the way some people let theirs. The genetics obviously favour a few lucky individuals, who are fit and healthy - though a little frail - well into their 90's. A Normal distribution of age will produce this, just as sadly a few unlucky individuals will die naturally in their 30's. I like to think that by keeping fit we will realize our genetic longevity and maybe push it beyond that, but obviously I don't want to end up with stumps instead of joints when I am 80!




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