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    Forum Ph.D. Raziell's Avatar
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    So my body is immortal (Biologically, does not age).

    I even moved my brain into a floating rejuvenation tank with a huge cyborg body. But now what?
    A thousand years will pass and normal people will still die, get born and mutate. I on the other hand is stagnant.

    After another thousand years, humans have become so smart and improved that I have become what the apes are to us today.

    There goes my dream of immortality down the toilet. Even if it was possible. Cheating nature would completely stop my own development while new humans benefit from thousands of years of evolutionary improvements. To the point where in their eyes, I am nothing more than a mechanized monkey to be made fun of.


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    i doubt whether humans were any more stupid a thousand and even several thousand years ago
    we just benefit from the accumulation of knowledge over time and the fact that in a larger world population (as compared with even a few hundred years ago) you're more likely to have influential geniuses

    that, and the fact that the climate over the past 10,000 years has remained remarkably stable, which may have contributed to the accumulation of knowledge - population crashes might well have led to loss of knowledge, especially prior to recording of knowledge in a more permanent format than people's heads


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raziell View Post
    So my body is immortal (Biologically, does not age).

    I even moved my brain into a floating rejuvenation tank with a huge cyborg body. But now what?
    A thousand years will pass and normal people will still die, get born and mutate. I on the other hand is stagnant.

    After another thousand years, humans have become so smart and improved that I have become what the apes are to us today.

    There goes my dream of immortality down the toilet. Even if it was possible. Cheating nature would completely stop my own development while new humans benefit from thousands of years of evolutionary improvements. To the point where in their eyes, I am nothing more than a mechanized monkey to be made fun of.
    Actually I disagree with you, you would most likely be the 'smartest guy alive' , if we take an option that you constantly have been educating yourself. You would have 100x times more experience than other mortals.
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    Your idea is sound but evolution works way slower than that. Maybe in a million years or 2 or 3 you would be noticibly abnormal, ie "that short hairy guy" but your wealth of experience should still make you valuable.
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    He would evolve as well. Just in another way.
    P.S There is a movie on the similar subject, my big suggestion.
    ''Man from the Earth''.
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    The way i see evolution of humans occuring now at this time, is that being smart doesn't increase chances of having children, actually vice versa. If this intelligence is hereditary i think everyone will be back to apes in 1000 years, flinging their poo and having sex.
    Growing up, i marveled at star-trek's science, and ignored the perfect society. Now, i try to ignore their science, and marvel at the society.

    Imagine, being able to create matter out of thin air, and not coming up with using drones for boarding hostile ships. Or using drones to defend your own ship. Heck, using drones to block energy attacks, counterattack or for surveillance. Unless, of course, they are nano-machines in your blood, which is a billion times more complex..
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    All of which are opinions that become totally obsolete from the moment humanity learns to genetically modify the new generation for higher intelligence.
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    Zwolver. Poste 6. Is that all Apes do? Surely not. Why is it that we never dream of Apes--monkeys etc.?

    All this other Fauna Infrastructure we are lumbered with.

    We eat Sheep and Cattle. We don't eat Apes.

    And, conversily, Sheep Cattle and Apes don't fancy us.

    They are Vegetarians.

    So we eat Vegetarians.

    Why do we eat Vegetarians? When it comes down to it, Mosquitoes eat the Composition of our Blood, so they are meat eaters, Yet we do not eat Mosquitoes?

    All this, common enough terminology, can be challenging. Are we completely on top of all the motivation involved in our daily interactions with the Principles of Life?

    The Future Aggragation and developemental Status of Mankind is, I think, into the world of Cyronics and experiementation of configurations of biological man.

    That's when the shit will hit the Fan. westwind.
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