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Thread: Babies die if neglected Elderly People die if neglected.

  1. #1 Babies die if neglected Elderly People die if neglected. 
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    Neglect--- the failure to perform an act or duty---. We have Laws, both Civil and Social, that prevents the blatant neglect of Babies, and to a lesser extent, children. But for the Elderly in our Society it is becoming OK to assume that they have some responsibility to provide for themselves, both materially and emotionability. And another thing that is happening. Parasitical Offspring, though no longer sucking on the Mothers breasts, are determined to extract material benefits from their elderly parents in some form or other. Emotional blackmail? Mortgage guarantee? This house is to big for you now that Dads gone. Sell the big Block( parcel of land ), and come and live in my backyard. I've got a spare Chook House......westwind


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    The paint on my house also dies when neglected, so what is your point? Or do you want to breastfeed the elderly?


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    Growing up, i marveled at star-trek's science, and ignored the perfect society. Now, i try to ignore their science, and marvel at the society.

    Imagine, being able to create matter out of thin air, and not coming up with using drones for boarding hostile ships. Or using drones to defend your own ship. Heck, using drones to block energy attacks, counterattack or for surveillance. Unless, of course, they are nano-machines in your blood, which is a billion times more complex..
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    I think it's brilliant that some plants and animals time their deaths so the offspring get their nutrients.
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    You aren't going to get a sympathetic audience here Westwind. The young ones are on to you.
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    'Duty' is an ideological construct of our society. Genetically, we are programmed to nurture our offspring but once they are viable and able to survive and reproduce, nature is almost done with the parent, sad but true. Over time we have evolved social structures that recognize that we can learn from the experiences of our parents and elders and so there is some value in their maintenance, to date.

    Natural law encourages both cooperation and competition in pursuit of it's objective of continuance.

    Life enjoys it's brief experience and so we individually hope to prolong the duration.

    As for those chickens coming home to roost, they are but seeking refuge in a troubled time for many.

    We are all in this together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scheherazade View Post
    We are all in this together.
    Some of us are in it deeper than others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by scheherazade View Post
    We are all in this together.
    Some of us are in it deeper than others.
    Observably so.

    Any practical suggestions for those who are in deep?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scheherazade View Post
    Observably so.

    Any practical suggestions for those who are in deep?
    When you are in a hole the first thing to do is stop digging.
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    For my not so young but not so old Friends. ( Don't let the young Members in on this ), but personally I wouldn't mind living in a Chook House in a Siblings/Off Spring'"s Backyard. First go at the eggs for breakfast, and an intelligent cackling conversation with the hens all day with the chance of a few worms. And, as a bonus, the Hens retire early for the night. westwind.
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    Dear Pong. Trouble is Pong some Parents hang on forever, locking their nutrients up. ( youe Poste 3 ) Now, am I speaking from experience? To be absolutely fair I should now analysis my own nutrient seeking motives.( when I was younger, and could have done with some extra nutrients.) I loved my Mother and Step Father. If I could have kept them alive I would have sold my assetts to do so. So the young must have other avenues to sustain their ambitions and growth. The work ethic of my Parents was enough for me. When., like Simone Weil, I was handed a Short Bread Biscuit and a Cup of Tea, my gratitude that someone would think of me in this way was always overwhelming. If you are young, don't look for handouts, take control of your own lives, so that your Off Spring will be there for you, should you really need them. westwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by westwind View Post
    some Parents hang on forever, locking their nutrients up
    I'm afraid of that. Afraid that my instinct to live and have a good time will make an ass of me, and ruin my chances at spiritual immortality through my descendants. That's really selfishness taken to a higher level, isn't it? At the same time I recognize that, being a mediocre human, I cannot sustain the very vigorous or generous lifestyle that would secure my remembrance beyond a few generations.

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    Part of the equation has homosexual children now much less likely to stay at home and look after their parents. Traditionally, these non-breeding members (euphemisms: bachelor, old maid aunt) played a valuable role that siblings who had struck off to grow their own families could not. Today they're encouraged to emerge from the closet, leave home, and even marry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by westwind View Post
    If you are young, don't look for handouts, take control of your own lives, so that your Off Spring will be there for you, should you really need them. westwind
    Ehm, so what about the elderly who have no offspring?

    Or closer to home, what do you mean by looking for handouts? We all take what we can get, and if someone is handing out something you like, you nurture yourself with it. Right? And the young ones take control of their own life, it's called puberty. It's the parents who are afraid to let go, and a silent scream in the young ones who know they can't yet provide for themselves in this economy. Not when they are still in school.

    This is the everlasting damnation where children can't get away from their parents, because of their study. They can stop early and start working, but then they suffer the concequences for the rest of their life, lower income, doing boring remedial tasks, or way to physically intense work.

    We need to hold our parents hands, until we have grown wings. Wings that are big enough so we can escape the spiderwebs society has spun above us.

    Speaking in imagery, thinking it was more fitting this way...
    Growing up, i marveled at star-trek's science, and ignored the perfect society. Now, i try to ignore their science, and marvel at the society.

    Imagine, being able to create matter out of thin air, and not coming up with using drones for boarding hostile ships. Or using drones to defend your own ship. Heck, using drones to block energy attacks, counterattack or for surveillance. Unless, of course, they are nano-machines in your blood, which is a billion times more complex..
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