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Thread: Any reason not to try this sleeping cycle?

  1. #1 Any reason not to try this sleeping cycle? 
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    Sleeping 15 minutes every 3 hours.

    Could this work or will it deprive you of deep sleep and hurt your brain in the long run?

    Came across this topic that this is what Leonardo Da Vinci did, but I couldnt find any sources to as if this is a myth or fact. I really want to try it out as you would get so much more done. But Im sceptical because if this was healthy alot more people would do it?

    I also came across this: Polyphasic Sleep: Facts and Myths which seems to further shoot down the idea. So I was wondering if you could mix them up and try this - but sleep normally every 3 days. This would give you the deep sleep you need. Yet again this could also be harmful Im guessing as your body would have to readapt instead of following a regular habit.

    Too good to be true? Stick to normal sleeping cycle or worth trying?


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    A full sleep cycle is about 90 minutes, so unless you have some peculiar adaptation, 15 minutes will not get you the deep sleep you need. I like the idea though!

    Here is a bit of a breakdown of the stages of sleep [link].

    In terms of napping, I have tried it and it definitely helps! I feel better and smarter and get more done. I still keep a typical sleep schedule, however, just also take a 15-30 minute nap in the middle of the day.


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    I can't speak to the scientific validity of this sleep study, but as someone who hates naps and loves that nice 8 hours at night, I could never do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raziell View Post
    Sleeping 15 minutes every 3 hours.

    Could this work or will it deprive you of deep sleep and hurt your brain in the long run?

    Came across this topic that this is what Leonardo Da Vinci did, but I couldnt find any sources to as if this is a myth or fact. I really want to try it out as you would get so much more done. But Im sceptical because if this was healthy alot more people would do it?

    I also came across this: Polyphasic Sleep: Facts and Myths which seems to further shoot down the idea. So I was wondering if you could mix them up and try this - but sleep normally every 3 days. This would give you the deep sleep you need. Yet again this could also be harmful Im guessing as your body would have to readapt instead of following a regular habit.

    Too good to be true? Stick to normal sleeping cycle or worth trying?
    There is considerable research that indicates we have a need for sleep to allow the body time to do 'scheduled maintenance' in accordance with our circadian rhythms and daily hormonal cycles. It is widespread and scattered and I have been reading on the topic for several years now.

    Based on my personal experience as one who has worked graveyard shift for over 7 years in a physically demanding job, I certainly wouldn't consider it for my own needs.
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    I worked the graveyard shift for 4 years and it led me to a lot of emotional issues such as depression. I applaud anyone who can handle it. They've got more constitution than me. Besides, doesn't a 15 minute nap ever 3 hours sound a little....complicated?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
    I worked the graveyard shift for 4 years and it led me to a lot of emotional issues such as depression. I applaud anyone who can handle it. They've got more constitution than me. Besides, doesn't a 15 minute nap ever 3 hours sound a little....complicated?
    For sure! But the whole deal is that if you have the dicipline and manage to get into it. Youll have 2-3 hours extra each day. When it comes to work, studies and hobbies - that is one hell of an extended life in the long run.
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    I once tried doing this by taking a nap after every 3 hours or so, and I did it because I once read that people says: taking a nap improve your memory so I was curious to test it since I was also a student at that time & thought it would give me advantage. But what I felt at the end of the day was a pure anxiety, alot of it. And I don't understand if its because of my assignment or the nap, but stuff did FELT really out of control and it felt terrible!

    Not sure if its just a placebo (stuff you like to find and found) or if those nap really is screwed me.

    p/s: I didn't try it anymore because I don't have that privilege of time & spaces that I had when I was that student. For one, I can't go to deep sleep for 30 minute anymore because its too noisy where I am now.
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    With clock and daylight cues removed, the sleep/wake cycle slips to something like 25 or 24.5 hours, though individuals vary greatly. Maybe no coincidence this matches the Moon's 24hrs and 50 minutes tidal cycle? Anyway, we know that most people are more comfortable on a 25 not 24 hour schedule, i.e most people would stay awake an extra hour each "day".

    That people have widely differing preferred cycles, explains early-birds and night-owls. If an early-bird's inner clock is 23 hours, she will feel like sleeping earlier, rising earlier, each and every 24 hour day. This is different than requiring more or less sleep. But when an early-bird reconciles her innate schedule with civilization she probably finds life easier just staying in bed longer than necessary, waiting for the alarm. Thus early-birds probably get too much sleep, night-owls probably too little.

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    The sleep habits of babies is topical. They don't really follow a day/night schedule so much as a (sometimes hourly!) feed/sleep routine. And while some babies spend half the day alert and learning about the world, others' time may be so taken up by crying, sleeping, etc. they only gain maybe 1 hour total each day real cognitive development. Raziell you're right there's great advantage in living more per day. So how can adults comfortably sustain a rhythm akin to babies (without having babies)? Maybe we should learn how parents do it. I'd love to say how I did, but honestly I just don't know how I survived the first six months.
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    15 mins every 3 hours yields a total of only 2hours of sleep in 24 hours. That is deffinately not enough. Since it takes the average person 20 mins to get to sleep...
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    Maybe we should learn how parents do it. I'd love to say how I did, but honestly I just don't know how I survived the first six months.
    How parents do it? It's just a blur. It wasn't much better than a blur at the time. All we did was just plod through from one hour to the next, one day to the next.

    My recollection is that the days drag, but the years fly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adelady View Post
    the days drag, but the years fly.
    I'm not even a parent and I agree with this statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raziell View Post
    Sleeping 15 minutes every 3 hours. Could this work

    Well even if it could it would be no good for me I afraid, it would result in me drinking about 20 cups of coffee a day, I have to have my coffee to wake up and doing it every 3 and quarter hours not a nice thought, plus then I would spend half my time on the loo after all that coffee.
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    I feel I have an obligation to make an informed Poste to this Thread. Until this week my sleep patterns would, I am sure, have taken a lot of people to an early Grave. Not that I'm so strong in mind that that is how I avoided being one of those people, its just that my Family have always struggled to live, not die. For many years( far too many ), I missed out on normal healthy sleep because of lower Spine compression and trapped root nerves, including the Sciatica nerve. Pressure, and the need to change position every 10 minutes ensured any sleep I did get was fragmented and totally inadequate. Cut a long story short, Epidurals both sides of the lower Spine including the latest Pain Block Solution has, on my Mother's Grave, given me back a quality of life that I hardly remember I once had. If my Angels and my God have approved this new opportunity for me to adopt a more kindly face and mind to the World, so be it.

    My advice to any person, young or old, is go get the Epidurals. The Cortizone. Flood the pain area with novecaineor whatever they have now. Pump it in. You'll be walking on cloud nine. Don't feel sorry for yourself and stuff around waiting for miracles to occurr, they won't. Take positive action. My Pig headiness and stubborn Martyarship have cost me the best years of my life, cost me my Job, forced me into early retirement, prevented extra money being earnt, and set my standard of living at a lower than average for evermore.

    Am I very angry about this? Yep. I should have had the Epidurals 20 years ago. As against that summing up I retained true Friends who made allowance for my inability to laugh out loud and climb Mt. Everest. Get rid of your pain and get some decent sleep. westwind.
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    Here here. No reason to deny yourself freedom from pain!
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    Between the hectic pace of today's society and those who suffer from sleep disorder or chronic pain, fortunate are those who have such means as to be able to enjoy 6 or more hours of sleep on a regular basis.

    'Power naps' are a great way to temporarily recharge one's batteries, so to speak, but I cannot conceive of living on power naps alone, by choice. I'm sure that one could glean some insight into this mode of sleeping cycle by speaking to soldiers of combat missions and other emergency response situations who must endure irregular wake/rest cycles as opportunity affords.

    Of course, the experiment suggested in the opening post is voluntary and could be undertaken in safe circumstances for the most part as far as location of resting sites. I would expect to see some impairment of motor skills and cognizance especially during early adjustment and would be concerned of putting others at risk if driving or operating machinery.
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