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  1. #1 Crstallisation of Water 
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    My friend was talking to me about some properties of water (really cool ones) and he said that it is posible to crystallise water with a magnetic or electric field (not sure whch one). Anyway, i couldn't find anything about it and so i want to know whether this is true. If so please explain how!


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    Can you remember what he was drinking/smoking when he told you this?

    Water as such will not crystalise using either of the fields you describe.


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    haha yeah water cant crystalize unless its like in those cave with those spires
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    Quote Originally Posted by billco
    Can you remember what he was drinking/smoking when he told you this?
    was he drinking such crystal water :-D
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    Quote Originally Posted by iLOVEscience
    haha yeah water cant crystalize unless its like in those cave with those spires
    ha ha on you - that aint water that crystalizes - its the minerals that are carried in the water, but they don't 'crystalize' as such - though I am not a mineralogist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elaugree
    My friend was talking to me about some properties of water (really cool ones) and he said that it is posible to crystallise water with a magnetic or electric field (not sure whch one). Anyway, i couldn't find anything about it and so i want to know whether this is true. If so please explain how!
    Perhaps if you use the magnetic and electric fields to power a freezer....
    "... the polhode rolls without slipping on the herpolhode lying in the invariable plane."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elaugree
    My friend was talking to me about some properties of water (really cool ones) and he said that it is posible to crystallise water with a magnetic or electric field (not sure whch one). Anyway, i couldn't find anything about it and so i want to know whether this is true. If so please explain how!
    Perhaps if you use the magnetic and electric fields to power a freezer....
    Smart arse.
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    or freeze time itseft haha XD
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    Gentlemen, I am appalled at your ignorance of the most important chemical compound in the Universe, and the changes that can be induced in it by application of magentic and electric fields.

    I'll give you a day or two to straighten yourselves out before sharing some of my vast ( )knowledge with you. 8)
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    i just assumed when someone said it wasnt true that my idea wouldnt be true. so i followed suit with the crowd. my bad. not th eessance of science.

    i suppose electric/magentic fields could ionise water molocules some, perhaps making the hydrongen bonds a whole lot stronger.

    that would a been a better response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodgod3rd
    i just assumed when someone said it wasnt true that my idea wouldnt be true. so i followed suit with the crowd. my bad. not th eessance of science.

    i suppose electric/magentic fields could ionise water molocules some, perhaps making the hydrongen bonds a whole lot stronger.

    that would a been a better response.

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    Keep the faith, water is H2O, it may be Solid, liquid, gas, it does not crystallise, Ophie has merely fallen over and bumped his head....

    The original question was WATER - and nothing to do with LIQUID CRYSTAL Displays which is what ophie might be alluding to..
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    I have not bumped my head.

    I have not fallen over.

    Ice is a crytalline solid. Water crystallises. Electric and magnetic fields can influence the temperature at which the transition occurs.

    As GoodGod3rd has accurately observed, the role of hydrogen bonds, their influence on the transition temperature and their suceptibility to EM fields lies at the heart of the matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophiolite
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    Ice is a crytalline solid. Water crystallises. Electric and magnetic fields can influence the temperature at which the transition occurs.
    Are you suggesting that electric and magnetic fields can directly turn water to ice? - I'll accept indirectly ie via refridgeration equipment but look at the question - surely the original question would have included the words ice or freeze or both.
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    I am stating, not suggesting, that when water is close to freezing appropriate application of an EM field can alter the transition temperature to cause freezing that would not otherwise occur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophiolite
    I am stating, not suggesting, that when water is close to freezing appropriate application of an EM field can alter the transition temperature to cause freezing that would not otherwise occur.
    So where may I find independant evidence to support this claim?
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    There are two options. you could try googling it, or you could wait till tomorrow when I'll summarise my understanding and provide a couple of links.
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