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  1. #1 Intersex is due to genes exchange between sex chromosomes or uneven division in Meiosis 
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    I add some new pictures in my theory, i think my theory really can unlock the mystery of cause of intersex. Every case of intersex people found are all in my table 3 and table 4. No other one case of intersex you can found not in my tables. I hope you can check this article clearly. then we talk about it here. if you can see the pictures, you can check them on my blog. http://orgasmgirl.blogspot.com/2011/...ccurrence.html

    1 Definition of intersex

    Intersex, in humans and other animals, is the presence of intermediate or atypical combinations of physical features that usually distinguish female from male. It has 4 cases
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    1.1Female pseudohermaphroditism

    In this case the sex chromosomes are XX and the female has ovaries, but also external male sex organs (penis).

    1.2Male pseudohermaphroditism

    They have XY as sex chromosomes, but their external organs are not fully developed or they are completely female on the outside.

    1.3 True hermaphroditism

    While the above were “pseudohermaphroditism”, meaning they are mostly male or mostly female, in this case there are both testicles and ovaries.

    1.4 Complex or Undetermined Intersex Disorders –Many chromosome configurations other than simple 46 XX or 46 XY can result in disorders of sex development. These include 45, XO (only one X chromosome), and 47, XXY, 47, XXX -- both cases have an extra sex chromosome, either an X or a Y. These disorders do not result in an intersex condition where there is discrepancy between internal and external genitalia.

    2 Reasons of intersex

    As is known to all, Chromosomal crossing-over is an exchange of genetic material between homologous chromosomes. It is one of the final phases of genetic recombination, which occurs during prophase I of meiosis in a process called synapsis. Synapsis begins before the synaptonemal complex develops, and is not completed until near the end of prophase I. Crossover usually occurs when matching regions on matching chromosomes break and then reconnect to the other chromosome.
    But experts thought that the crossing-over just occurs during Non-sister chromatids in 22 pairs of autosomes, but sex chromosomes often remain unpaired, because the X and Y chromosomes are very different from each other in their genetic composition. That is the key point of intersex. Physical exchange of homologous chromosomal regions by homologous recombination during prophase I is absolute, and Non-exchange is relative. It is easy to understand, as same as the movement is absolute, and static is relative. Intersex is the typical results of crossing-over between X and Y chromosomes. Precisely, intersex is just only one typical result of numerous possibilities caused by crossing-over between X and Y chromosomes. I think there are wealth of contents in X and Y chromosomes, not only unitary control boy or girl. Here I am going explain them one by one case.

    2.1 Case 1 Female pseudohermaphroditism

    when the father’ sex chromosomes have crossing-over during meiosis I, the Y chromosome give some chromatid segments to X chromosome, and get some alleles back, which only control the offspring have a small clitoris or a big penis, but not control other information. Then the father gives his exchanged Xf chromosome to his daughter then his daughter has XmXf chromosomes, but she indeed has male penis instead of female clitoris. Here, Xm means X chromosome with some male reproductive traits, and Xf means X chromosome with whole female reproductive traits. There is another key factor that all the genes that control sex trait are dominant inheritance. As a result, the daughter’ Xm chromosome from her mother can’t express out, and she only can express dominant trait from his father’s exchanged Xf chromosome. The result is the girl has a male penis.

    2.2 Case 2 male pseudohermaphroditism

    It is as same as case 1, but the father gives his exchanged Yf chromosome to his son. Although, his son has XfYf chromosomes, he indeed has female clitoris instead of male penis, because the genes whatever in Xf chromosome from his mother or exchanged Yf chromosome from his father are invisible inheritance. The result is the boy don’t have male penis, though he has XfYf chromosomes. Here, Yf means Y chromosome with some female reproductive traits.
    We can say that the above “pseudohermaphroditism” ‘culprits are the fathers. More specifically, where did Father's genes come from? Of course from grandparents. In other words, Female pseudohermaphroditism- the grandfather’ part of sex genes inherited to granddaughter through his son, and granddaughter expressed male trait from her grandfather’ genes. Male pseudohermaphroditism- the grandmother’s part of sex genes inherited to grandson through her son, and grandson expressed female trait from his grandmother’ genes, not from his mother. I think this point is very important for researching intersex.
    The above two kinds of ambiguous genitalia is the result of allelic exchange between X chromosome and Y chromosome. The people in this situation whatever Female pseudohermaphroditism or Male pseudohermaphroditism have 46 chromosomes and can produce germ cells. Because the probability of crossing-over occurrence during sex chromosomes is very small, we can ignore the crossing-over again. The following is their offspring genes tape after affected father with normal mother (Table 1) and normal father with affected mother (Table 2).





    2.3 Case 3 true hermaphroditism

    This extreme example of hermaphroditism is quite rare. I am not so sure, I guess it is also due to the crossing-over partial occurrence between X chromosome and Y chromosome, but not allelic exchange, it is non-allelic crossing-over between sex chromosomes. As the result, the people also have 46 chromosomes, but the sex chromosome must have structural abnormalities. A portion of the chromosome is duplicated, resulting in extra genetic material instead of a portion of the same chromosome is missing or deleted. The sex trait the people expressed is they have the 2 homologous organs.

    2.4 In case 4 complex or Undetermined Intersex Disorders

    This situation can’t be explained by crossing-over between sex chromosomes and I think it is related to uneven division during Meiosis I or Meiosis II. In Anaphase Meiosis I, the centromere breaks, but sex homologous chromosomes not separate, and go to one of two haploid daughter cells together (Figure 1 and Figure 4). In Anaphase Meiosis II, the centromeres break, but sister chromatids not separate to haploid daughter cells (Figure 2 and Figure 5). Figure 3 and Figure 6 are both uneven division in Meiosis I and Meiosis II.



    Figure 1 The type of gametes with father’s Meiosis I uneven division but Meiosis II even division



    Figure 2 The type of gametes with father’s Meiosis I even division but Meiosis II uneven division


    Figure 3 The type of gametes with father’s Meiosis I and II both uneven division




    Figure 4 The type of gametes with mother’s Meiosis I uneven division but Meiosis II even division



    Figure 5 The type of gametes with mother’s Meiosis I even division but Meiosis II uneven division


    Figure 6 The type of gametes with mother’s Meiosis I and II both uneven division

    Due to very small proportion of abnormal gametes, there is very low probability to meet between two abnormal gametes. So we can ignore this situation, and just research on the case which is one is normal the other is abnormal. Table 3 shows us the offspring’s gene tape with abnormal father’s gamete mated normal mother’s gamete, and table 4 is the offspring’s gene tape with normal father’s gamete mated abnormal mother’s gamete. It is noteworthy that the all gene types with red color have been found already, not only this, so far people didn’t find any another sex-chromosome Anomaly not in my table 2 and table 3. I think that is very strong evidence to my theory. About why does YO not existence? I think the reason must be related to the gene with YY not exist neither.

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    3 Conclusions
    I think sex chromosomes not only determine sex, they also have genes for many functions we don’t know yet. There is no absolute male and female. Physical exchange of homologous chromosomal is absolute, and Non-exchange is relative. Intersex person is just one of us. Notice here: the gene type with black normal in Table 3 and 4. It means maybe you are the reproduction of uneven division both in Meiosis I Meiosis II, if you are with so-called normal genes. Maybe lesbian, gay and bisexual are all because of crossing-over during sex chromosomes.


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    I think it is the real reason for intersex. Waiting for your reply here. please use your logical way and use your head.


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    Why did you need to start a new topic for this, rather then editing one of the old topics?

    And what mystery, you have yet to answer that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleoichneum View Post
    Why did you need to start a new topic for this, rather then editing one of the old topics?

    And what mystery, you have yet to answer that.
    1, Because i changed lot of old one.

    2, So far, the reason of intersex is still unknown, due to many different of intersex gene type, 47XXX, 47XYY or 47XXY, etc.. I can use my theory to explain all.

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    What do you mean the reason for intersexual individuals is unknown?
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    Hi clumsygirl. I'm not educated in biology, and sorry for asking a OT question but curiosity got the best of me.

    Regarding 1.3 - does that mean a true hermafrodite can reproduce with its own semen and eggs? If he/she has both testes and ovaries, can you extract both semen and eggs and plant them in a surrogate mother to bear the child?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raziell View Post
    Hi clumsygirl. I'm not educated in biology, and sorry for asking a OT question but curiosity got the best of me.

    Regarding 1.3 - does that mean a true hermafrodite can reproduce with its own semen and eggs? If he/she has both testes and ovaries, can you extract both semen and eggs and plant them in a surrogate mother to bear the child?
    In my opinion, both having both testes and ovaries is due to Non-allelic exchange between X and Y. the number of his/her chromosomes is normal, but only gene not. So i think they are not triploid, and can have gametes, but abnormal genes.
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    What tested evidence is your opinion based from?
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