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    Is it possible to make a mutant chicken by inserting DNA with a desired gene into the egg during its development?


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    Watch this TED talk:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dkav
    Is it possible to make a mutant chicken by inserting DNA with a desired gene into the egg during its development?
    You'd want to do the modification at the single cell stage, by the time an egg has formed, you've already got billions of cells to modify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBiologista
    Quote Originally Posted by Dkav
    Is it possible to make a mutant chicken by inserting DNA with a desired gene into the egg during its development?
    You'd want to do the modification at the single cell stage, by the time an egg has formed, you've already got billions of cells to modify.
    What about electroporation for gene transfer? Is it possible to do this @home?
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...dvdy.20454/pdf
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    are there any diy experiments at all I can do with chicken eggs? itjust that I have unlimited access to chicken eggs lol.s
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    TheBiologista: I think I misunderstood your comment, are you saying a chicken egg is "billions" of cells in oppose to just one? (an ovum is a single large cell)

    Dkav: If you expose developing chickens to retinoic acid (vitamin A) at a certain stage in their development you can flip around their feather/scute producing genes so that they are born with a scaley body and feathery legs. (see Thulborn, A 1985 "Birds as neotonous dinosaurs" New Zealand Geological record 9)

    and, no. You won't be able to graw a different species in a chicken egg by inserting different speies DNA if that was your original question.

    Even cross breeding closely related species requires sophisticated technology and years of research (See: Rama the Cama, a camel-llama hybrid)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProcInc
    TheBiologista: I think I misunderstood your comment, are you saying a chicken egg is "billions" of cells in oppose to just one? (an ovum is a single large cell)

    Dkav: If you expose developing chickens to retinoic acid (vitamin A) at a certain stage in their development you can flip around their feather/scute producing genes so that they are born with a scaley body and feathery legs. (see Thulborn, A 1985 "Birds as neotonous dinosaurs" New Zealand Geological record 9)

    and, no. You won't be able to graw a different species in a chicken egg by inserting different speies DNA if that was your original question.

    Even cross breeding closely related species requires sophisticated technology and years of research (See: Rama the Cama, a camel-llama hybrid)
    how about making a turchick (turkey/chicken) combo? will they mate together?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dkav
    Quote Originally Posted by TheBiologista
    Quote Originally Posted by Dkav
    Is it possible to make a mutant chicken by inserting DNA with a desired gene into the egg during its development?
    You'd want to do the modification at the single cell stage, by the time an egg has formed, you've already got billions of cells to modify.
    What about electroporation for gene transfer? Is it possible to do this @home?
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...dvdy.20454/pdf
    Only if your home contains thousands of dollars worth of laboratory equipment... the process is not at all simple.

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    TheBiologista: I think I misunderstood your comment, are you saying a chicken egg is "billions" of cells in oppose to just one? (an ovum is a single large cell)
    An ovum is an unfertilized single cell. We refer to it as an egg in some contexts, but it's a different thing to a chicken egg. Commercially sold chicken eggs are unfertilized but they contain multiple cells (though quite few if I remember rightly). These would be of no use to Dkav as they will not grow embryos under any circumstances. A fertilized egg would be needed and if the embryo has grown at all- even if it's still very small- it will contain millions or billions of cells.
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    Really interesting idea. The idea of mutation is enticing and is not new, I just don't know the point. Just to say you did it? The problem is the testing would cost tons of money and it would be hard to say what kind of mutation you would want to accomplish that could lead to living a sustained life.
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    microbiotesting, you have now made five rather terse and slightly obtuse comments, helpfully adding a link to a commercial website in your signature. It appears to me that you are advertising. If you are not, then I'm sure you won't mind me deleting your signature until I am satisfied that you're here to make a contribution to our community.
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