Notices
Results 1 to 43 of 43

Thread: can people never die

  1. #1 can people never die 
    Forum Freshman
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    bei jing
    Posts
    11
    .gene has strange change and may make people die.but the questions is can we never die.i don't wanna die though.people can never die can come true??????exactlly.i think gene is too complicated and attractive.but i only can show my meaning by chinese....tell me,i have a lot english books about english,,,,but i read them really hard.i like that feeling of read or study really fast...but english books wouldn't me.what shoul i do.niggas.help meeeeeeee....


    hi.i'm chinese and 16.let's happy togther,the happiness is full of the world it's better.my english is poor ,i feel so fear,it makes drink some beer the stroy is over
    Reply With Quote  
     

  2.  
     

  3. #2 Re: can people never die 
    Forum Freshman
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    18
    Quote Originally Posted by dsvilnxwbb
    .gene has strange change and may make people die.but the questions is can we never die.i don't wanna die though.people can never die can come true??????exactlly.i think gene is too complicated and attractive.but i only can show my meaning by chinese....tell me,i have a lot english books about english,,,,but i read them really hard.i like that feeling of read or study really fast...but english books wouldn't me.what shoul i do.niggas.help meeeeeeee....
    long time ago human has immortality gene until he decided to copulate the woman. He then lost the imortality gene.


    Reply With Quote  
     

  4. #3  
    Guest
    First: Learn english
    Second: accept the fact that chances of you being immortal are equal to the chance of finding a needle in a haystack as infinite as the universe. At night. With no moon. Or eyes. Or feeling ability. Or even the needle.

    And/or third: practice heavily with the occult and hope you inevitably acheive immortality through a massive amount of power!
    Reply With Quote  
     

  5. #4  
    Forum Professor Pendragon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Nederland
    Posts
    1,085
    Take it easy Jeremy, we don't all speak english as a native language.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  6. #5  
    Forum Professor Pendragon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Nederland
    Posts
    1,085
    About immortality, if I understand it correctly the main obstacle is the fact that our genetic material slowly starts to die at a certain age (35 or 40). First it slowly loses it's 'junk-dna' (useless rudimentary dna), but when this is gone it starts to lose important dna as well resulting in defects and cancer (maybe someone who knows more about biology can correct me if I'm wrong).

    The ironic part is that cancer itself sort of solves the problem, by creating endlessly reproducing cells. But this runs out of control and only makes individual cells immortal, not the organism.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  7. #6  
    Forum Junior Artemis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Amsterdam
    Posts
    297
    The problem of people dying is not a genetic problem. it has to do with the ageing of your organs etc. This has nothing to do with your genetic information. (for as far as I know)

    Cancer is indeed the multiply of some of your cells. The problem is that there is no control when it happens. Normaly your body only makes new cels when you are growing or to replace a dying cel. his uncontrolled multiplying causes a lot of pain and can even cause death

    About your English problem: English isn't my native langue either. But if you really want to be able to write and read propper english I don't think just reading books wil work. Maybe if you start with chinese school books about english you wil understand enough about the grammar to make your point on this Forum. Just keep trying hard
    Reply With Quote  
     

  8. #7  
    Forum Ph.D.
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Dublin, Ireland
    Posts
    945
    dsvilnxwbb, welcome to the forum.

    immortality, althought desirible for a split second - isn't all its cracked up to be.

    think about all the consequences and you should understand

    that and it is pretty much impossible.

    and your english is legible (read able) which is alot more than i can say about my irish. so keep it up. its usful to have.
    Stumble on through life.
    Feel free to correct any false information, which unknown to me, may be included in my posts. (also - let this be a disclaimer)
    Reply With Quote  
     

  9. #8  
    Forum Professor Zwolver's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    1,632
    let us see some of your irish :-D
    Growing up, i marveled at star-trek's science, and ignored the perfect society. Now, i try to ignore their science, and marvel at the society.

    Imagine, being able to create matter out of thin air, and not coming up with using drones for boarding hostile ships. Or using drones to defend your own ship. Heck, using drones to block energy attacks, counterattack or for surveillance. Unless, of course, they are nano-machines in your blood, which is a billion times more complex..
    Reply With Quote  
     

  10. #9  
    Guest
    Immortality is sort of impossible if you want to be impervious to damage. But it could be possible if you want to live forever. Again! Emmerse yourself in the occult and hope for the best! Haha. Or you can waste your life attempting to save your own through a vast number of scientific attempts. Neither of which I recommend. Try accepting the fact you'll inevitably die, and go wherever you go when you do. XP
    Reply With Quote  
     

  11. #10  
    Forum Ph.D.
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Dublin, Ireland
    Posts
    945
    let us see some of your irish :-D
    i'll show you this once!

    ConĂ¡s ata tu? ar maith leat an eaolaicht? is brea liom...

    i would finish but im struggling to remember if i just asked if you liked science or art. most probably neither, as i spelled it wrong.

    hell my english isn't great either if you seen my many bad spelled, grammer posts!
    Stumble on through life.
    Feel free to correct any false information, which unknown to me, may be included in my posts. (also - let this be a disclaimer)
    Reply With Quote  
     

  12. #11  
    New Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Kennet Square Pennsylvania
    Posts
    1
    Everything you need to achieve immortaility can be found here:

    http://realimmortality.com/Synergy/
    :wink:

    But seriously, in order to live forever you would need to accomplish several things that medical science is still far away from doing. (You might want to get some coffee before reading any further)

    Lets imagine a 90 year old man named Erwin, and see what we would need to do to make him immortal.

    First off, as you get older, your immune system weakens, and hence you have a much harder time fighting off and surviving diseases. Therefore, it would be a good idea to somehow boost your immune system. While there are things out there that can boost your immune system slightly, doctors still have no way of changing Erwin's immune system back to what it was 60 years ago.

    Well, if we can't boost his immune system, what can we do to keep Erwin alive? Because of his weak immune system, we can be relatively sure that almost any disease, short of the sniffles, will be fatal. He certaintly wouldn't be able to fight off a cancer, and certain viruses like the flu could prove fatal as well. I guess the best idea then for keeping Erwin alive would be to keep him from getting sick. Preventing him from contracting diseases like influenza is relatively straight forward, just keep him vaccinated. However, what can we do to keep him from getting cancer? Also, why is cancer so much more common in old people than young people?

    Cancer is caused by mutations in DNA. These mutaions then produce faulty proteins that interfere with cellular communication, and hence cause cells to grow out of control. So, we would need to prevent mutations occuring in Erwin's DNA. Unfortunately, many of these mutaions are caused by free radicals ( nasty little atoms that have unpaired electrons), and the number of free radicals increases in the body with age. Since medical science doesn't have a way to prevent free radicals from causing mutations at this time, Erwin looks like he's pretty much on his own.

    In conclusion, medical science won't be able to achieve immortality within your lifetime, so living forever, probably won't be an option for anyone on this board. Best to make the most of your time here.

    However, doctors are making progress on many fronts that would be helpful for living longer ( new cancer treatments, mitochondria medicine, stem cells, etc.). I could post more on these advances later if you would like.
    P.S. I would love to learn Chinese someday, and trust me, your English is probably better than my Chinese will ever be.
    Signatures are just a clever way to make your posts look longer.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  13. #12  
    Forum Junior Artemis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Amsterdam
    Posts
    297
    Wouldn't we be able to live, at least longer, if we would replace or organs etc for machines doing the same? Machines won't die of age and can be easily replaced. You probably wouldn't realy live because your just a machine keeping a body alive, but as long as the brains stil work you won't lose your personality. Of course death is better then this but it's just a hypothetical question. :P
    Reply With Quote  
     

  14. #13  
    Forum Professor Zwolver's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    1,632
    :? your body will degrade graduly and there is never EVER EVER anyone who's brain won't receive damage without stamcelresearch

    Aging is already controllable. With highenend antioxidant's you'll be able to live 120. Added with highened hormones you'll get around 140. If you add lifestyle and not being to much in the sun plus enough vitamines and not to much alcohol/nicotine you'll be able to get 180.. Theoreticly..

    But who wants a lifetime full of SHIT, i want to live while i can :-D
    Growing up, i marveled at star-trek's science, and ignored the perfect society. Now, i try to ignore their science, and marvel at the society.

    Imagine, being able to create matter out of thin air, and not coming up with using drones for boarding hostile ships. Or using drones to defend your own ship. Heck, using drones to block energy attacks, counterattack or for surveillance. Unless, of course, they are nano-machines in your blood, which is a billion times more complex..
    Reply With Quote  
     

  15. #14  
    Forum Junior Artemis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Amsterdam
    Posts
    297
    And right you are. Living forever probably isn't everything and maybe, eventualy, you'll wish you could die from boredom. Even if it would be able do live forever: if your friends and familie don't live forever there won't be anything left to live for.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  16. #15  
    Guest
    Actually, given infinite possibilities, if you're bored when you're immortal, you probably are too stupid to deserve immortality. But with the brain cell bit, if you were immortal, your body would have to always regenerate, including brain cells. But this is why Elves are a fallacy in general, brain cell deterioration!
    Reply With Quote  
     

  17. #16  
    Forum Freshman Leukocyte's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    56
    The problem of people dying is not a genetic problem. it has to do with the ageing of your organs etc. This has nothing to do with your genetic information. (for as far as I know)
    The telomeres on the ends of your chromosomes get shorter with each cell division. Eventually, they get so short that the cell will no longer divide, and over time your tissues and organs become pretty much dilapidated as there is no new cells to replace the old. Everything starts failing, your immune system weakens, and eventually you die.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  18. #17  
    Forum Professor Zwolver's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    1,632
    nobody died because of aging itself... always because of body disfunction..
    Growing up, i marveled at star-trek's science, and ignored the perfect society. Now, i try to ignore their science, and marvel at the society.

    Imagine, being able to create matter out of thin air, and not coming up with using drones for boarding hostile ships. Or using drones to defend your own ship. Heck, using drones to block energy attacks, counterattack or for surveillance. Unless, of course, they are nano-machines in your blood, which is a billion times more complex..
    Reply With Quote  
     

  19. #18  
    Forum Sophomore REV ROSWELL's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    OHSOVERYFAREASTTENNESSEE
    Posts
    153
    Bacteria don't age as we know it, and some people on TV don't die of old age, look at mike Wallace. (heh) The event of sexual reproduction (cellular division in reproduction) was the deaths nail of aging and death in a species.

    ; { >
    SPACE TIME IS THE BLOOD OF GOD
    Reply With Quote  
     

  20. #19  
    Forum Professor Zwolver's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    1,632
    good theory, it's true, bacteria don't age. Or they have something to protect their dna with, or they already reached maximum age. Something about meiosis (reproductional division) might be usefull as means for the cure against aging.

    But to many theory's, who's testing them? And maybe even a better question, what and how is he/she testing it?
    Growing up, i marveled at star-trek's science, and ignored the perfect society. Now, i try to ignore their science, and marvel at the society.

    Imagine, being able to create matter out of thin air, and not coming up with using drones for boarding hostile ships. Or using drones to defend your own ship. Heck, using drones to block energy attacks, counterattack or for surveillance. Unless, of course, they are nano-machines in your blood, which is a billion times more complex..
    Reply With Quote  
     

  21. #20  
    Forum Sophomore REV ROSWELL's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    OHSOVERYFAREASTTENNESSEE
    Posts
    153
    But to many theory's, who's testing them? And maybe even a better question, what and how is he/she testing it?
    Yes, I feel that we need more scientists with open minds (like Einstein) who should be paid to think and dream, then as their dreams jell devise a way to test their theory's even if they seem off the wall.

    Kurt Godel, Einstein, all the greats that broke new ground are gone. They were the last of the great thinkers. Even the great and brilliant Stephen Hawkins said in a recent interview that we are not yet prepared to accept the Godel model of our universe, either culturally or intellectually!

    : } >
    SPACE TIME IS THE BLOOD OF GOD
    Reply With Quote  
     

  22. #21  
    Forum Isotope Zelos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    2,755
    Our genes have a inbiult genetic function that measures the amount of celldivisions that have been done,e ach time they divide that one is halved, once it reaches a certain amount of divitions the cell commit suescide, its time to get rid of us to give our childs a chance to live and prosper, cancer cells can work unharmed becuase they have put this function out of work. We are geneticly programmed to die, but also the fact things dont work perfect is another reason
    I am zelos. Destroyer of planets, exterminator of life, conquerer of worlds. I have come to rule this uiniverse. And there is nothing u pathetic biengs can do to stop me

    On the eighth day Zelos said: 'Let there be darkness,' and the light was never again seen.

    The king of posting
    Reply With Quote  
     

  23. #22  
    Forum Sophomore REV ROSWELL's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    OHSOVERYFAREASTTENNESSEE
    Posts
    153
    We are geneticly programmed to die, but also the fact things dont work perfect is another reason
    Yes, death is the climax of life, and without death life would not be worth living, maybe? Seems to me that evolution would have eliminated death by now and made us immortal , just for funnies.

    Hey maybe it did already and the one immortal crea.....nah ....

    : } >
    SPACE TIME IS THE BLOOD OF GOD
    Reply With Quote  
     

  24. #23  
    Forum Freshman Leukocyte's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    56
    Our genes have a inbiult genetic function that measures the amount of celldivisions that have been done
    As i said above - telomeres!
    Reply With Quote  
     

  25. #24  
    Forum Isotope Zelos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    2,755
    Yes, death is the climax of life, and without death life would not be worth living, maybe? Seems to me that evolution would have eliminated death by now and made us immortal , just for funnies.
    nope, its acctualy so that evolution have made death so it can get rid of older genetic types, so the new one can have a chance to show what they go for
    I am zelos. Destroyer of planets, exterminator of life, conquerer of worlds. I have come to rule this uiniverse. And there is nothing u pathetic biengs can do to stop me

    On the eighth day Zelos said: 'Let there be darkness,' and the light was never again seen.

    The king of posting
    Reply With Quote  
     

  26. #25  
    Forum Sophomore REV ROSWELL's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    OHSOVERYFAREASTTENNESSEE
    Posts
    153
    nope, its acctualy so that evolution have made death so it can get rid of older genetic types, so the new one can have a chance to show what they go for


    Hmm' ANOTHER short coming of evolution!

    In all fairness this doesn't hold with me (that death cleaners the undesirable species out for the more desirable ones) because the fruit flies or other short lived species are inferior to long lived ones such as....ummmm'....me!

    It the life death cycles improved the species then we would have a exoskeleton and compound eyes by now true?

    : } >

    we are designed to be what we are my friend.
    SPACE TIME IS THE BLOOD OF GOD
    Reply With Quote  
     

  27. #26  
    Forum Isotope Zelos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    2,755
    we arent designed

    Hmm' ANOTHER short coming of evolution!
    nope

    In all fairness this doesn't hold with me (that death cleaners the undesirable species out for the more desirable ones) because the fruit flies or other short lived species are inferior to long lived ones such as....ummmm'....me!
    this all depends on the organism, they have a fast generation cycleing, wich is good for them, they dont need to care about each other and their children and such. And this give also the advantage of bieng fast in adapting evolutionary to new situation. Like if we say there is 1 mutation per generation they get 20 mtuation in 20 years wich can be tested by nature. while humans wold in that time only get 1 mutation becuase we have a generation cyucle of about 20 years.

    This in turn have also to do with the reproduction strategy, their strategy is dont care about children lie many eggs. We do another strategy, get few kids take care of them. This mean that we need to live longer to take care oif them and give them a good start. This makes our lifes longer, but also as a species grows in size it needs to live longer to get that size (elephants/whales for exemple) This age/size/repro strategy relation is completly natural and is nothing shortcoming to evolution. Its logical.

    Those who dont care about the kids dont need to live long, those who are small dont need to live long before they are full grown. Logical or what?

    Natures "goal" in age is rather getting the age as low as possible for the species, without making it get trouble, so as many generations can go in shortest time, thereby increasings that species survival

    BTW, designing idea is for people who consider humanity to be more special than we really are, if you look in the entire animal kingdom no behavior of ours is special, the only special thing is our technology
    I am zelos. Destroyer of planets, exterminator of life, conquerer of worlds. I have come to rule this uiniverse. And there is nothing u pathetic biengs can do to stop me

    On the eighth day Zelos said: 'Let there be darkness,' and the light was never again seen.

    The king of posting
    Reply With Quote  
     

  28. #27  
    Forum Professor Zwolver's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    1,632
    fruitflies have generations of around 4 weeks, not 1 year. (just info )
    Growing up, i marveled at star-trek's science, and ignored the perfect society. Now, i try to ignore their science, and marvel at the society.

    Imagine, being able to create matter out of thin air, and not coming up with using drones for boarding hostile ships. Or using drones to defend your own ship. Heck, using drones to block energy attacks, counterattack or for surveillance. Unless, of course, they are nano-machines in your blood, which is a billion times more complex..
    Reply With Quote  
     

  29. #28  
    Forum Sophomore REV ROSWELL's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    OHSOVERYFAREASTTENNESSEE
    Posts
    153
    If your can't get exactly what you want, get the next best.
    That is a good way to live, in everything except 4 motrorcycles. 4 me its a hghly modified harley davidsion or nuthin'

    : { >
    SPACE TIME IS THE BLOOD OF GOD
    Reply With Quote  
     

  30. #29  
    Forum Isotope Zelos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    2,755
    4 weeks? thats good for the fruitflies, with such short generation cycle its almost garantied to survive anything
    I am zelos. Destroyer of planets, exterminator of life, conquerer of worlds. I have come to rule this uiniverse. And there is nothing u pathetic biengs can do to stop me

    On the eighth day Zelos said: 'Let there be darkness,' and the light was never again seen.

    The king of posting
    Reply With Quote  
     

  31. #30  
    Forum Professor Zwolver's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    1,632
    an average life cycle it is. But they can do it a lot faster. i heard some flies can lay eggs, they hatch after 24 hours, maggots turn into cocoons after another 1 or 2 days, and cocoons hatch in 1 or 2 days. and the flies can be fertilized after 1 more day after that. but that's really optimal. So less than 2 weeks is also possible..
    Growing up, i marveled at star-trek's science, and ignored the perfect society. Now, i try to ignore their science, and marvel at the society.

    Imagine, being able to create matter out of thin air, and not coming up with using drones for boarding hostile ships. Or using drones to defend your own ship. Heck, using drones to block energy attacks, counterattack or for surveillance. Unless, of course, they are nano-machines in your blood, which is a billion times more complex..
    Reply With Quote  
     

  32. #31  
    Forum Freshman
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    27
    U will die no matter what u want
    even if immortality existed no one would give it to u
    and if u want to live that badly why dont try to find a therapy urself?
    Reply With Quote  
     

  33. #32  
    Forum Isotope Zelos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    2,755
    you could live very long by transforming your mind into a robotic form and then simply use replacement parts, but when the universe die, you die aswell
    I am zelos. Destroyer of planets, exterminator of life, conquerer of worlds. I have come to rule this uiniverse. And there is nothing u pathetic biengs can do to stop me

    On the eighth day Zelos said: 'Let there be darkness,' and the light was never again seen.

    The king of posting
    Reply With Quote  
     

  34. #33  
    Forum Freshman monaro_waky's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    33
    I'm pretty sure that as we age that our genes split apart and as they do they are wrecked a bit each time and we eventually die when they are damaged to the extent that they can't split apart any more so we die. Is that right?
    There are no such things as applied sciences, only applications of science.
    Louis Pasteur (1822 - 1895)
    Reply With Quote  
     

  35. #34  
    Forum Isotope Zelos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    2,755
    theoreticly a body could live for eternity, evolutionary it have never been a advantage using so much energy on it
    I am zelos. Destroyer of planets, exterminator of life, conquerer of worlds. I have come to rule this uiniverse. And there is nothing u pathetic biengs can do to stop me

    On the eighth day Zelos said: 'Let there be darkness,' and the light was never again seen.

    The king of posting
    Reply With Quote  
     

  36. #35  
    Forum Freshman Leukocyte's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    56
    I'm pretty sure that as we age that our genes split apart and as they do they are wrecked a bit each time and we eventually die when they are damaged to the extent that they can't split apart any more so we die. Is that right?
    TELOMERES!

    I mentioned them on the last page.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  37. #36  
    Forum Freshman monaro_waky's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    33
    oh ok sorry
    There are no such things as applied sciences, only applications of science.
    Louis Pasteur (1822 - 1895)
    Reply With Quote  
     

  38. #37  
    Forum Isotope Zelos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    2,755
    yepp, they do a fine work keeping the evolution going
    I am zelos. Destroyer of planets, exterminator of life, conquerer of worlds. I have come to rule this uiniverse. And there is nothing u pathetic biengs can do to stop me

    On the eighth day Zelos said: 'Let there be darkness,' and the light was never again seen.

    The king of posting
    Reply With Quote  
     

  39. #38  
    Forum Freshman
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    19
    DAM....took so long to read the replies

    living a long life would be a pain....if you didn't want to learn...if you want to learn about life and the universe than longevity and immortality would be good way to start.

    just some suggestions...for longevity u could try "unlocking the the secrets of longevity genes" it was in a scientific american magazine...they said you could extend life by 250%....

    another....if you could find a decent way to change our DNA so as someone said....Bacteria don't die of age....Maybe delete a few sequences in our DNA or maybe add a few or maybe change a few may help.

    and immortaility....well its kinda hard...if you consider cancer as your main "killer" and the main cause is from radiation than it would be good to incorporate DNA and the structure of DNA from Deinoccocus Radiodurans...they can withstand 1000x more radiation than humans. thats if you find a decent way to change our DNA and biochemistry...

    immortality again....if you were fighting off diseases.....just use nanites...or genetically engineer a disease of your own to fight off other diseases that is immune to your immune system...(confusing)...except that would be dangerous because it might mutate and become contagious and kill everyone....

    hope my ideas were helpful.....i'm very interested topic
    Reply With Quote  
     

  40. #39  
    Forum Freshman SinMan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Dordrecht, The Netherlands
    Posts
    35
    Quote Originally Posted by Zwolver
    good theory, it's true, bacteria don't age. Or they have something to protect their dna with, or they already reached maximum age. Something about meiosis (reproductional division) might be usefull as means for the cure against aging.

    But to many theory's, who's testing them? And maybe even a better question, what and how is he/she testing it?
    hi guys, I just discover that this topic is interesting for me
    anyway, bacteria have a circular genome and cannot be compared in this case to ours. Leukocyte's theory is actually the dominating theory of aging at the moment (as far as I know). Aging is indeed thought to be genetically determined. Dysfunctioning of organs as humans get older is tought to be caused by genetical "timers" (short teleomeres? bacteria don't have telemoeres since they have circular DNA).
    Nice topic though
    Q:What's better than being perfect? A:Accepting yourself!
    Reply With Quote  
     

  41. #40  
    Forum Freshman
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    19
    bacteria have a circular genome

    if you can study the biochemisty and stuff you might be able to change the human genome to match???
    Reply With Quote  
     

  42. #41  
    Forum Freshman SinMan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Dordrecht, The Netherlands
    Posts
    35
    Quote Originally Posted by jwong
    bacteria have a circular genome

    if you can study the biochemisty and stuff you might be able to change the human genome to match???
    It is much easier to say than to do. It's impossible for us (at least now) to change such a thing.
    Q:What's better than being perfect? A:Accepting yourself!
    Reply With Quote  
     

  43. #42  
    Forum Freshman
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    19
    yep its impossible for now....we don't even know the chemical reactions that take place inside a cell yet.....
    Reply With Quote  
     

  44. #43  
    Forum Isotope Zelos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    2,755
    if it were impossible without a circular chromosone then we wouldnt be able to reproduce becuase it would have the same "age" as the cells it came from. The egg cells need to be reset so its like they never had any age so the child can age at its own rate.

    So we would basacly then need to udnerstand how the eggcell does that and we might be able to applicate it to every other cell
    I am zelos. Destroyer of planets, exterminator of life, conquerer of worlds. I have come to rule this uiniverse. And there is nothing u pathetic biengs can do to stop me

    On the eighth day Zelos said: 'Let there be darkness,' and the light was never again seen.

    The king of posting
    Reply With Quote  
     

Bookmarks
Bookmarks
Posting Permissions
  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •