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  1. #1 Theistic Evolution 
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    If a person believes in creationism and theory of evolution at the same time. Does that mean the person believes that God created the early hominid as human (look most likely had appear to be very different from our modern human and behave totally differently). To put it loosely, do they believe that God created the "apes/monkeys' as human. If so, how is this compatible with the Book of Genesis that says God created man on the sixth day?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsmile
    If a person believes in creationism and theory of evolution at the same time.
    that would appear to be logical impossibility to me, requiring a person to believe one thing and its exact antithesis at the same time


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    I understand that theistic evolutionists believe either
    a) god created the rules by which evolution would operate and left them to run
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    b) god created the rules but occassionally nudged things in the right direction.
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    which is not the same as believing in creationism
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    Some Christians also think the Bible is metaphorical and that the facts in it are not necessarily meant to be taken literally, but that it is the message that is important. So, they may recognize Genesis as an inspired myth that contains moral insight but is not a guide to how the world came to be.
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    But the focus here is how they believe God create man and God created "apes/monkey" and it evolves to man at the same time?
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    The only way I could see that happening is if a person believe god created "life" (not necessarily man) which would not be creationism, and from there allowed evolution to take place.
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    Exactly. The Bible is not accurate since it is written (and thus interpreted) by humans. The timescale in the bible is not to be taken seriously, but is more of a loose chronological order of events. God created the laws of the universe like a cosmic game of life. Everything that happened after that is a consequence of those laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordan798
    The only way I could see that happening is if a person believe god created "life" (not necessarily man) which would not be creationism, and from there allowed evolution to take place.
    I think that people often look at the wrong thing... If one takes creation to be 'all of Earth's present biodiversity was created as is,' then it is a matter of creation versus evolution. However I find it worth mentioning that it could also be looked at as a matter of whether life was created by a creator, or arose without outside help (abiogenesis). It does work, if one chooses, to believe that life was created initially, and evolved from there.

    Basically, depending on one's definition of 'creation,' it could be the usual "creation versus evolution," or it could really be "creation versus abiogenesis."
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    I think this is a somewhat tricky case, as anyone can believe anything. Not all theistic darwinists believe the same thing... if I were, I would believe that God created life, as life arising of its own accord is unlikely, and let it evolve of its on accord. That seems to be the most logical way of looking at it for me. I do think you can believe both at once. Someone had to create the universe (or created the thing that created the universe, and so on... you can't keep going for infinity, there is undeniably an ultimate reason for existence), and at the same time, natural selection is a remarkably obvious concept to me.
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