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    Okay well my question is that is there such a thing as a "mental bond"? Where two people can have shared dreams, memories, etc. And if there is, what is the whole biochemistry process of it. I'm sorry but I'm a little new at this so if anyone can answer, much thanks.


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    There can be no chemical connection, between two separate bodies.

    But the same stimulus could induce the same reaction. The mind really isn’t something we understand.

    One interesting theory I came across someone who said something similar to this, to me, and it did get me thinking.

    If when persons swapped, bodily fluids, they could have similar dreams, act. Now im not suggesting this to be true.

    but its a thought, if someone close enough to swap fluid, be it a kiss ect, then they obviously have a mental connection, and dreams are caused by mental thoughts, and chemicals, so if someone possesses a chemical stimulus, that causes a certain type of dream, thought, and if this is coupled by a closeness, or a similar activity then two combined could cause the same dream. If not exactly the same, but the persons probably think it is.

    When we understand the brain more, we may have an answer. What I said is my own wonders. Sorry I can’t help more


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    Perhaps people living in the same house can be affected by each others' pheramones, and share dreams? It's known that women who live in the same house after a while will menstruate at the same time. However this is just a very vague, very wild guess
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    it is indeed something weird..

    but i have no knowledge about pheromones changing something physical. never been proven.. so we got to think it's something else... but what..

    no telekinetic bond, force.. etc.. and mostly pheromones only affect the opposite sex..

    the advantage (in the past) is that all the females would be fertile in the same period.. that's something convenient..

    maybe menstruation can be slowly changed by some things we eat hear or feel.. because that'll be quite the same for everyone in the house.

    just a wild guess though..
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    Shared dreams simply do not exist. People can eithier think they shared a dream or they can have simmilar, yet independent, dreams. I would also add that if you let one of the people explain their dream to the other person first, then it's very easy for the other person to claim to have had the exact same dream even if they didn't.
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    I agree with you 100% bubbleclip.
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    I'm quite baseless about this claim but i believe similar experience may trigger similar reaction, hence, similar dreams. The dreams may be independant of each other (like what bubbleclip said) but maybe the dreams are interconnected by the bond that takes the form of the shared experience. It does not necessarily have to take the form/ boil down to chemical/ biological compounds.

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    "Shared dreams simply do not exist. People can eithier think they shared a dream or they can have simmilar, yet independent, dreams. I would also add that if you let one of the people explain their dream to the other person first, then it's very easy for the other person to claim to have had the exact same dream even if they didn't."

    There was psychological research a few years ago that points to the role of sleep and dreams in memory consolidation (and I can proably provide a reference if anyone is interested as I think I used it an essay).

    Basically dreaming may be a process of "defragging" the memories you have used and stored during the day, but because it affects memory it is possible to have what is effectively a blank dream - an empty "memory". These blanks can be filled, completely innocently, with details aquired after the dream . So the unwitting "psychic" is told of an event/dream which gets written into their "memory" as if they had experienced it. This explains not only shared dreams but also "premonitions".

    I would also point out the possibility that people that share multuiple facets of their lives may dvelop similar patterns of thinking and so may have similar dreams, but I think a lot of wishful think come into play for people that experince shared dreams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubbleclip
    Shared dreams simply do not exist. People can eithier think they shared a dream or they can have simmilar, yet independent, dreams. I would also add that if you let one of the people explain their dream to the other person first, then it's very easy for the other person to claim to have had the exact same dream even if they didn't.
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    Agree with bubble: there is no such thing as a chemical mental bond.

    However, there are similar neurodevelopmental circuits. For instances, identical twins do not have exactly the same brain structures (as they vary because of stochastic and enviromental variabilities) but the structures of the brain are more similar than those of non-identical twins. Many similarities in the environments of twins (but of course, the environments are not exactly the same) lend to a higher probably of similar outputs from their similar neural circuits. This is a prominent explanation for why identical twins seem to have a more intimate knowledge of each other's thoughts. It doesn't require any mystical mental bonds, just a theory supported by scientific facts.
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    How about reading other's minds or finishing a friend's sentence? Don't these apply to the subject at hand?
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